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INWORLD MEETING WITH SAKAI - 30 January 2010
[22:04] Sakai Openlife: If you sent me an IM in the last 3 days please don't worry i have it in my mail right now... all 100+ of them... but won't reply before this meet
[22:04] Pantaiputih Korobase: umm cheops
[22:04] Shai Khalifa: gotta love logging into a region when a lot of others are
[22:04] Sakai Openlife: I'll type chat today
[22:04] Sakai Openlife: ㋡
[22:04] Dawny Openlife: lol
[22:04] Digital Dreambuilder: the poseball is in front of cahor
[22:04] Adec Alexandria: can we have music then ㋡
[22:04] Sakai Openlife: if you have some sure
[22:04] Linda McAllister: lello :)
[22:04] Shai Khalifa: Sakai, I'd suggest you get the chairs out now mate
[22:04] Sakai Openlife: just pass me a stream
[22:05] Dawny Openlife: Hi Linda
[22:05] Linda McAllister: hoi :)
[22:05] Linda McAllister eeps!
[22:05] Dawny Openlife: is that a hint Sakai?
[22:05] Linda McAllister: nice dress Dawn
[22:05] Adec Alexandria: that stream is for Dawny ㋡
[22:05] Dawny Openlife: Thank you Linda :)
[22:06] Elieluen Yareah: those vagabond shoes
[22:06] Linda McAllister: and new hair!
[22:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol Eli
[22:06] Sakai Openlife: haha
[22:06] Linda McAllister: the zombie sit :P
[22:06] Sakai Openlife: yes I met someone who was very nice to update me
[22:06] Sakai Openlife: I also notice everyone here seems to have had an upgrade too!
[22:06] Adec Alexandria: still no shoes Sakai .. catch me after
[22:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: well, Adecs hair not
[22:06] Sakai Openlife: ;p
[22:06] Elieluen Yareah: i have a new cybernetic implant
[22:07] Shai Khalifa: he seems to have little Chinese shoes on to me
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: ok Well, I'll suggest a format here
[22:07] Elieluen Yareah: and big brother gave me a bar code
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: I'll bring everyone up to speed for the first 15mins
[22:07] Pantaiputih Korobase: Adec wears designer shoes not such
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: then we can discuss/chat
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: sound good?
[22:07] Adec Alexandria: ok
[22:07] Maggie Moonbeam: Y
[22:07] Elieluen Yareah: great
[22:07] Clay Duport: fire away boss
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: ok. Been a lil while
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: and obviously the gears have been busy
[22:07] Clay Duport: yeah i forgot who saka was
[22:07] Sakai Openlife: but it's been a while since we had a major update
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: so I'll focus on that first
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: major updates are important although a little inconvenient
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: they let us upgrade not just reginos
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: but the system underneath supporting the regions
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: We will have one of these
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: this week
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: on Friday
[22:08] Sakai Openlife: (Morning about 8am UTC)
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: There's a bunch of fixes there that I think are much anticipated and improvements
[22:09] Elieluen Yareah: oooo
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: Such as Groups function for large groups
[22:09] Adec Alexandria: yay groups
[22:09] Shai Khalifa: yayyyyyyyyyyy
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: I know and have received plenty of requests
[22:09] Elieluen Yareah: group perms you mean?
[22:09] Adec Alexandria: good
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: about crashing on group
[22:09] Clay Duport: whoo hoo
[22:09] Adec Alexandria: yup
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: this is corrected
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: and included in that update
[22:09] Elieluen Yareah: ah i c
[22:09] Pantaiputih Korobase: good
[22:09] Adec Alexandria: thanks sakai
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: please bare in mind there is a limit
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: 500
[22:09] Dawny Openlife: lol
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: to the number of users possible in a group
[22:09] Adec Alexandria: lol
[22:09] Sakai Openlife: this is a viewerside limit
[22:10] Pantaiputih Korobase: this will suffice for the moment :-))
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: and sincerly a group that large will be pretty cludgy
[22:10] Maggie Moonbeam: do we even have 500 in world?
[22:10] Elieluen Yareah: i have 499 in my group
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: (especially for IM's)
[22:10] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[22:10] Shai Khalifa looks forward to the day when I have 500 online on my friends list
[22:10] Adec Alexandria: lol Eli
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: when you've got 100's
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: in a group
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: and send a group im
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: it tries / checks each user
[22:10] Adec Alexandria: atm it crashes at 60
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: so the IM's get sloooooow
[22:10] Elieluen Yareah: ah
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: we don't have an instant solution for this
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: but
[22:10] Sakai Openlife: if it get's too bad
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: or lots of huge groups
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: we'll put some effort there
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: Also
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: should be some improvements to grid wide transfer of inventory
[22:11] Surreal Numbers: for those groups having the crashing problem, will their current membership pbe preserved?
[22:11] Surreal Numbers: be*
[22:11] Shai Khalifa: can we let you know when we have a group approaching 400 to give yo a headsup on how many large groups there are coming up
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: presently it does transfer but you don't always see it in your inventory immediately
[22:11] Sakai Openlife: sure...
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: so we have changed that
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: to refresh immediately
[22:12] Shai Khalifa: phew, good one
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: on receive
[22:12] Elieluen Yareah: and it notifies as well/
[22:12] Shai Khalifa: an notify?
[22:12] Elieluen Yareah: ?
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: yes the notify should be there too
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: at the moment
[22:12] Elieluen Yareah: nice one
[22:12] Shai Khalifa: Clap Clap Clap Clap
[22:12] Shai Khalifa: ☆*¨¨*:•.•:*¨* Whoot !!! *¨¨*:•.•:*¨*☆
[22:12] Shai Khalifa: Clap Clap Clap Clap
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: it does actually arrive
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: but no notification
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: and you don't see it until you relog
[22:12] Sakai Openlife: (so kind of silent packages in the mail)
[22:12] Elieluen Yareah: yes very scary indeed
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: We also have a bit of an LSL update again
[22:13] Shai Khalifa: sakai the sneaky postie
[22:13] Elieluen Yareah: woot!
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: we've been continuing to put improvements into the lsl system
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: so Post-Update
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: we'll put a new list of LSL
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: onto the wiki
[22:13] Elieluen Yareah: i'd love to see a page of which new functions have been added or improved etc
[22:13] Maggie Moonbeam: Raises hand what is LSL?
[22:13] Elieluen Yareah: oh cool
[22:13] Adec Alexandria: that would be good to know what works
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: so everyone can see what should / 'apparently' works
[22:13] Sakai Openlife: (scripting)
[22:13] Shai Khalifa: the scripting language Maggie
[22:13] Adec Alexandria: scripts maggie
[22:13] Grimley Graves: it's the scripting language
[22:13] Maggie Moonbeam: TY
[22:14] Elieluen Yareah: i'd love llAttach and llDetach to work
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: And the 'maybe' is a physics update
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: *Never enjoy physics stuff
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: lol
[22:14] Shai Khalifa: you can't mean no more broken ankles surely
[22:14] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: maybe....
[22:14] Adec Alexandria: or flying off chairs ㋡
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: yes
[22:14] Maggie Moonbeam: Wooot sexy ankles.
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: the 'bounce'
[22:14] Elieluen Yareah: or falling through floors when there are too many avs around
[22:14] Sakai Openlife: the floors thing... mm
[22:15] Sakai Openlife: I have some tips there
[22:15] Sakai Openlife: I'll get to after
[22:15] Elieluen Yareah: ok
[22:15] Adec Alexandria: dont use defalut 0.5m floors and you will be ok
[22:15] Shai Khalifa: don't land, just click stop flying fixes that
[22:15] Elieluen Yareah: ah i will tell frejya
[22:15] Sakai Openlife: also we have some changes to storage and communications (these are not really userside visible things though)
[22:15] Sakai Openlife: but pretty important noentheless
[22:15] Sakai Openlife: So the update should take approx 2-4hrs
[22:16] Sakai Openlife: 2 if everything is just speedy and 4 if we need to bring out the screwdrivers...
[22:16] Elieluen Yareah: oh my what will i do for those hours?
[22:16] Adec Alexandria: i'll be at work ㋡
[22:16] Pantaiputih Korobase: sleep?
[22:16] Elieluen Yareah: hehehe
[22:16] Grimley Graves: NO SCREWDRIVERS
[22:16] Sakai Openlife: We can also then finally turn on a bunch of things that we'd done for the website
[22:16] Grimley Graves: *crosses fingers*
[22:16] Sakai Openlife: (we need to make the storage changes first to do it)
[22:16] Shai Khalifa: lol, he's talking about alcohol Grim
[22:16] Elieluen Yareah: YAY!
[22:16] Sakai Openlife: other things on my little(big) list here
[22:17] Sakai Openlife: New Viewer happenned I hope everyone has been getting a long well with it
[22:17] Linda McAllister: keeps you busy :p
[22:17] Digital Dreambuilder: mmmm
[22:17] Elieluen Yareah: yah not many probs at all
[22:17] Maggie Moonbeam: yes
[22:17] Adec Alexandria: too used to this one now i cant play SL
[22:17] Shai Khalifa: working fine for me
[22:17] Elieluen Yareah: in fact that whole update went rather smoothly i think
[22:17] Linda McAllister: no, I don't like the new viewer
[22:17] Clay Duport: so far soo good
[22:17] Grimley Graves: getting used to it, it has it's plusses and minuses
[22:17] Linda McAllister: colors are weird
[22:17] Sakai Openlife: There is a NEW new viewer
[22:17] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Adec, I have to search for some keys in SL to now :-)
[22:17] Sakai Openlife: which we were hoping to see this weekend
[22:17] Elieluen Yareah: with shadows?
[22:17] Elieluen Yareah: lol
[22:17] Shai Khalifa: with a darker interface I hope
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: but it's been lots of candle burning
[22:18] Chenoa Senyurt: good
[22:18] Linda McAllister: hope dark too
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: so we'll just see what pans out later this weekend
[22:18] Adec Alexandria: thanks to KLee
[22:18] Elieluen Yareah: klee doesn't have electricity?
[22:18] Maggie Moonbeam: k Sakai
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: if users are really looking for a 'darker' interface
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: ,,,
[22:18] Linda McAllister: yes I do
[22:18] Shai Khalifa: yes please
[22:18] Elieluen Yareah: would be nice to be able to skin it ourselves perhaps
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: I'll see what can be done about a 2nd skin included
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: yes
[22:18] Linda McAllister: can hardly read my invent
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: you can actually
[22:18] Grimley Graves: or user adjustable skins
[22:18] Adec Alexandria: skins would be nice
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: you can skin it yourself if you like
[22:18] Sakai Openlife: I'll tell you how
[22:18] Elieluen Yareah: oh wow
[22:19] Shai Khalifa: g'day Klee
[22:19] Linda McAllister: oh!
[22:19] Adec Alexandria: hey KLee
[22:19] Sakai Openlife: in your default install
[22:19] Klee Openlife: sup :)
[22:19] Sakai Openlife: there is a folder called
[22:19] Linda McAllister: heya Klee
[22:19] Klee Openlife: UAC ate my vtune....
[22:19] Sakai Openlife: C:\Program Files (x86)\Openlife R17\skins
[22:19] Maggie Moonbeam: is htat the tech version of the dog ate my homework?
[22:19] Sakai Openlife: (default install location)
[22:19] Elieluen Yareah: ah great
[22:19] Elieluen Yareah: very cool
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: I would suggest quite stongly to leave the .xml's alone
[22:20] Elieluen Yareah: maybe we can share skins wiht other users etc
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: as you can find yourself in a qorld of hurt and confusion there
[22:20] Elieluen Yareah: yah indeed
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: but
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: if you push further
[22:20] Elieluen Yareah: so just change the pictures etc
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: into 'textures' folder
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: C:\Program Files (x86)\Openlife R17\skins\default\textures
[22:20] Linda McAllister: and put the icons on the bottem?
[22:20] Elieluen Yareah: is there a css fiel too?
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: you'll find a whole bunch of images
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: (no css)
[22:20] Digital Dreambuilder: on a mac path is /Applications/OpenLife R17 copy.app/Contents/Resources/skins
[22:20] Elieluen Yareah: ok
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: basically
[22:20] Sakai Openlife: we've been pretty nice
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: and tried to make as much as possible
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: .png based
[22:21] Pantaiputih Korobase: may ba a mnue within the viewer with some default skins would be easier for users who want to change the viewer skin......
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: as opposed to LL's evil tga/jp2
[22:21] Elieluen Yareah: roflmao
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: so this is a common fil format
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: that most ppl can do easily
[22:21] Elieluen Yareah: those tgas are syphillitic
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: just keep the images the 'same' size
[22:21] Adec Alexandria: interesting
[22:21] Shai Khalifa: kk, I'll check for where it is on Mac
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: and png 32bit
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: and you should be fine
[22:21] Shai Khalifa: I think there are a few of us here
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: to overwrite those that are there
[22:21] Digital Dreambuilder: /Applications/OpenLife R17 copy.app/Contents/Resources/skins
[22:21] Sakai Openlife: if you have a sexy one
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: feel free to tell us about it
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: and post it
[22:22] Shai Khalifa: ta
[22:22] Elieluen Yareah: nice will do
[22:22] Digital Dreambuilder: for mac
[22:22] Elieluen Yareah: quite excited abotu that now
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: everything in there is 1:1
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: so the size is important
[22:22] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: (otherwise things will look distorted)
[22:22] Elieluen Yareah: yes size IS important
[22:22] Adec Alexandria: 10 inches
[22:22] Sakai Openlife: hehe
[22:22] Dawny Openlife: o.O
[22:23] Maggie Moonbeam: Mudders OMG>. and giggles
[22:23] Sakai Openlife: ok only have 3 more items to mention
[22:23] Shai Khalifa: that's the circumfrance of your head adec?
[22:23] Grimley Graves: *rolls eyes*
[22:23] Sakai Openlife: Euro regions...
[22:23] Pantaiputih Korobase: his toes
[22:23] Grimley Graves: *picks up stray eye*
[22:23] Sakai Openlife: this are becoming a reality
[22:23] Pantaiputih Korobase: aah soudns great
[22:23] Elieluen Yareah: a euro region?
[22:23] Sakai Openlife: I'm quite sure we will see the option in the configuration tool
[22:23] Pantaiputih Korobase: servers in the EU for euro users
[22:23] Sakai Openlife: within 3 weeks
[22:23] Elieluen Yareah: ah great
[22:23] Klee Openlife: yus euros region, porn n gambling ^^
[22:24] Shai Khalifa: nice
[22:24] Adec Alexandria: lol KLee
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: ToS is the same
[22:24] Shai Khalifa: lol klee
[22:24] Elieluen Yareah: didn't realise that would be such an issue
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: hehe
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: and the pricing
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: surprisingly
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: is the same
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: (not more)
[22:24] Pantaiputih Korobase: aah wow
[22:24] Adec Alexandria: prices same ? thats a surprise
[22:24] Elieluen Yareah: oh it has to do with VAT?
[22:24] Grimley Graves: yay, no VAT
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: no not really
[22:24] Klee Openlife: nope ping ^^
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: more that usually
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: euro servers cost a lot more
[22:24] Pantaiputih Korobase: so, wen can change that in the toolbox some day for existing regions or what??
[22:24] Linda McAllister: vat 69??
[22:24] Sakai Openlife: but we've had a company 'wooing' us
[22:25] Shai Khalifa: I'm with you Linda
[22:25] Elieluen Yareah: ah fantastic
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: So we'll be able to do them at the same cost
[22:25] Elieluen Yareah: alcos
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: ok last 2 items
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: Renewal
[22:25] Adec Alexandria: will be interesting to know which sims are euro based and which us to see the diff
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: today after the 2nd meet
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: we switch
[22:25] Sakai Openlife: we really wanted to do it earlier
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: but i think a meeting would be better first
[22:26] Grimley Graves: switch?
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: the current/old system
[22:26] Grimley Graves: ah, thought that already happened
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: needs a lot of labor to get your renewals in there
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: it 1/2 did ;)
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: There's some notable changes that we want to introduce
[22:26] Sakai Openlife: first being for users with multiple regions
[22:27] Pantaiputih Korobase: listens.....
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: that are 'grandfathered'
[22:27] Grimley Graves: ok, cause I renewed on Dec 9th and it hasn't updated
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: We heard you didn't like to renew with credits
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: because of differences
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: that don't refelect your grandfathered pricing
[22:27] Digital Dreambuilder: yes
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: We understand that and in the last update included the ability to set your renewals differently
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: so later todat
[22:27] Shai Khalifa: which is why I paypal all the time
[22:27] Linda McAllister: brb biobreak
[22:27] Sakai Openlife: we will make that change
[22:28] Elieluen Yareah: great stuff
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: so that when you use an SSO renew
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: you can get the correct rate
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: according to your grandfathered pricing
[22:28] Shai Khalifa: kewel
[22:28] Lion Ewry: What about not being up todae right now?
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: based on 2 /4 regions
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: After the change
[22:28] Sakai Openlife: alot of users will see (if they look at it immediately on update)
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: either it catch up
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: and be spot on
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: or be off
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: (i guess those are the only 2 possibilities)
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: hoever
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: however
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: after we make the switcfh
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: the rest of the day
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: we are bringing the dates up
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: particularly
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: if you are someone that usually renews via web
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: (you will likely be off)
[22:29] Sakai Openlife: if you renew via in world
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: you will be perfect
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: as those dates are not currently refelected
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: but they will be after the switch
[22:30] Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, you can all come to Pants land tomorrow :-)) if you are off, hehe
[22:30] Elieluen Yareah: lol
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: For grandfathered users
[22:30] Shai Khalifa: I've \been off for years
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: this change means that you will not see that grandfathered option on the web anymore
[22:30] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol Shai
[22:30] Sakai Openlife: and your option will be strictly credits
[22:30] Linda McAllister: grandpa...I dont get it but ok..im back :P
[22:31] Elieluen Yareah: ah
[22:31] Sakai Openlife: (This is why I figured it best to talk about in the meeting)
[22:31] Clay Duport: im lost... gradfatherd ?
[22:31] Sakai Openlife: before making the switch and everyone going waaaaaa....
[22:31] Pantaiputih Korobase: hahahaha
[22:31] Surreal Numbers: i dont understand
[22:31] Shai Khalifa: ok, so to buy credits inworld to p ay renewal, is that more immediate now??
[22:31] Pantaiputih Korobase: the ones who are not attending will go waaaaa then
[22:31] Sakai Openlife: yes
[22:31] Surreal Numbers: i use paypal via the web. is that option going away?
[22:31] Sakai Openlife: so for those whom have clusters...
[22:31] Sakai Openlife: the new method will be credits
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: OR...
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: subscription
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: (new option where we send a subscription link to you)
[22:32] Elieluen Yareah: i think the confusion is about what gradfathered means
[22:32] Linda McAllister is young!
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: this is most certainly not to confuse you
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: grandfathered
[22:32] Lion Ewry: How do we get it correct if it is alreadh incorrect?
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: is for those with 2 or 4 regions
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: that purchased when we offerred clusters
[22:32] Clay Duport: ok ok
[22:32] Sakai Openlife: (with different pricing to today)
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: the reason for subscription
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: and credits
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: is that credits is automatic
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: instant date updating
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: so you are in complete control of that date
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: and don't need us to intervene
[22:33] Pantaiputih Korobase: well instant equals to 3 minutes, but it'S ok
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: ;)
[22:33] Elieluen Yareah: more instant than my coffee pot htough
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: We really want to smooth up this process
[22:33] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[22:33] Sakai Openlife: and correct it once and for all
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: so we can smooth sail ahead
[22:34] Pantaiputih Korobase: grt
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: I knoiw it's been painful for users
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: frustrasting even
[22:34] Digital Dreambuilder: so are you saying the rate I pay for my clustre at the grandfathered rate still applies with paypal renewla ?
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: and also for us too
[22:34] Shai Khalifa claps
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: yes
[22:34] Surreal Numbers: is the paypal option via the web going away?
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: you will still get that special rate
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: it will however
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: if you prefer cash not credits
[22:34] Lion Ewry: Mine is a month behind right now--Not updated for what I paid already. How does that get fixed?
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: we will send you a subscription link
[22:34] Sakai Openlife: to auto-debit
[22:34] Chenoa Senyurt: How do I get a sso box to pay?
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: if your date is out now... don't worry it won't be
[22:35] Shai Khalifa: you make one Chenoa
[22:35] Pantaiputih Korobase: you can create
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: as we'll pick up your renewal after the switch
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: if it's still not right or you don't think it is on Monday
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: let us know on the contact us page
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: and we'll send you a list
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: of transactions
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: that show us how we got that dat
[22:35] Sakai Openlife: date
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: ㋡
[22:36] Digital Dreambuilder: as long as my existing rate still applies and i pay by paypal subscriptionn thats ok - just no price hike without warning
[22:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: people who use the SSO, you take the date from the SSO?
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: nope no price hiking at all
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: yes SSO dates are already recording right
[22:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: ok
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: and this is what we switch to
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: we'll put another video on the web monday
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: that shows how to use sso
[22:36] Clay Duport: we still buy our credits on pay pal is ok right
[22:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: (except for February, lol)
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: and we'll also add a link
[22:36] Shai Khalifa: in quicktime right?
[22:36] Shai Khalifa: not silverlight
[22:36] Sakai Openlife: under the videos for those not able to use silverlight
[22:37] Elieluen Yareah: eeewww silverlight
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: so you can download if you like
[22:37] Pantaiputih Korobase: for accounting, do you plan to put some instructions on the website for all the other users?
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: Answering you question for paypal/credits
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: yes this is still the same
[22:37] Clay Duport: ty
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: yes
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: we will put more information about renewal
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: on the site Monday
[22:37] Sakai Openlife: along with that video
[22:37] Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, this is really needed I guess
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: I think it is
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: last item was low prim region
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: we got your feedback
[22:38] Adec Alexandria: ahh
[22:38] Elieluen Yareah: YAY!
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: (thankyou)
[22:38] Shai Khalifa listens intently
[22:38] Pantaiputih Korobase: listens too
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: for now we're er 50/50?
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: we heard what you wanted
[22:38] Adec Alexandria: we need scripts even if limited
[22:38] Sakai Openlife: but we're not sure we will be able to deliver with scripting capability or the sso's you want just yet
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: Presently we develop in parrallel
[22:39] Elieluen Yareah: give me a low prim water region with sso:boat and i'll be happy
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: (new platform)
[22:39] Adec Alexandria: no scripts .. save your time and dont implement
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: and current platform
[22:39] Grimley Graves: what is the reason for the "no scripts" ?
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: well
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: it is possible that even a few scripts
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: can be quite heavy load
[22:39] Sakai Openlife: (due to the engine)
[22:39] Clay Duport: with no scripts will AO's etc still work
[22:40] Sakai Openlife: this would really put a dent in operating these regions
[22:40] Shai Khalifa: no clay
[22:40] Clay Duport: thans shai
[22:40] Sakai Openlife: for Pants (yes)
[22:40] Adec Alexandria: if the low regions are no script .. then just stop now and dont implement
[22:40] Elieluen Yareah: but sso's will still work on these regions right?
[22:40] Sakai Openlife: yes this is why we're 50/50
[22:40] Elieluen Yareah: i think no script but sso's is fine for those low prim regions
[22:40] Sakai Openlife: the idea is to bring users /new existing a low cost large space
[22:41] Elieluen Yareah: if you want full script capability then buy a full sim
[22:41] Adec Alexandria: sso's dont cover script usage .. will be a PR nitemare
[22:41] Sakai Openlife: but the more we work on it
[22:41] Shai Khalifa: so long as the library of SSOs is good and we can build them ourselves to submit for addition, SSO's is not a bad way to go
[22:41] Sakai Openlife: the less time we have for grid wide work
[22:41] Adec Alexandria: so again .. can the idea
[22:41] Sakai Openlife: and to put those precious hours into a low cost item that isn't quite for everyone
[22:41] Elieluen Yareah: i just want an sso:boat and a vast expanse of water
[22:41] Sakai Openlife: might not be the best use of our time for now...
[22:42] Sakai Openlife: so we like the idea
[22:42] Sakai Openlife: the concept
[22:42] Shai Khalifa: I want to be able to flly across to Sandalwood from Zanith
[22:42] Sakai Openlife: and the suggestions
[22:42] Elieluen Yareah: yah
[22:42] Grimley Graves: I think the biggest question right now is... what about scripted avatar attachments for folks visiting these regions?
[22:42] Sakai Openlife: but perhaps the timing is just not right yet
[22:42] Adec Alexandria: agree
[22:42] Adec Alexandria: can it
[22:42] Elieluen Yareah: no no i think the timing is perfect
[22:42] Elieluen Yareah: lol
[22:42] Shai Khalifa: what about multiple lite regions that share a script engine???
[22:42] Shai Khalifa: I agree Eli
[22:42] Sakai Openlife: 'potentialy' we could do almost anything i suppose
[22:43] Sakai Openlife: but the fit doesn't seem to be there just now
[22:43] Elieluen Yareah: :( ah well
[22:43] Sakai Openlife: So we will keep the item in the notebook for now
[22:43] Sakai Openlife: and review it again a little later
[22:43] Shai Khalifa: looks like we can't even look across the water at each other Eli
[22:43] Shai Khalifa: which brings me to a point
[22:43] Sakai Openlife: and maybe it will be easier for us to implement after more things have been developed
[22:43] Elieluen Yareah: ya indeed shai
[22:44] Shai Khalifa: if you have regions out there a bit further - you can't see the next but one to you at the moment
[22:44] Shai Khalifa: if there's a void between
[22:44] Grimley Graves: well, yeah, I agree on fixing the big things first
[22:44] Sakai Openlife: this is right
[22:44] Pantaiputih Korobase: dito
[22:44] Sakai Openlife: you can only see 1 region away
[22:44] Elieluen Yareah: oh i thought it was just my new PRs?
[22:44] Sakai Openlife: because there is no 'connection' between the regions
[22:44] Sakai Openlife: when there is blank space in between
[22:45] Elieluen Yareah: ah i get ya
[22:45] Sakai Openlife: you don't have technically what is called a 'child connection
[22:45] Shai Khalifa: which is why we'd like to have SOME sort of region we can have between
[22:45] Elieluen Yareah: yah
[22:45] Sakai Openlife: (where aneighbour sends details about AV's and activities inside it)
[22:45] Sakai Openlife: to users in adjacent reginos
[22:45] Shai Khalifa: until there's something that's developable
[22:45] Sakai Openlife: this will only happen on 'direct' neighbours for now
[22:45] Linda McAllister mummbles the brady brunch?
[22:45] Grimley Graves: is that maybe part of the teleport problem as well?
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: nope
[22:46] Grimley Graves: hmm, any progress on that?
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: (I generally TP ok)
[22:46] Pantaiputih Korobase: what is the TP problem? attachemtns, inventory load?
[22:46] Shai Khalifa: tp sux
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: before i get there though...
[22:46] Grimley Graves: I'm about 50/50
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: I'll take a couple min
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: to explain a few tips
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: about regions
[22:46] Pantaiputih Korobase: my TP is called rfelog
[22:46] Pantaiputih Korobase: -f
[22:46] Sakai Openlife: that will help your region to be more 'responsive'
[22:46] Shai Khalifa: you get there, but always without some attachment, and always without hair
[22:46] Grimley Graves: sorry, dont mean to jump ahead
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: no it's ok glad to have the chat
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: ㋡
[22:47] Elieluen Yareah: well ic an't tp home directly i can only to via the map
[22:47] Grimley Graves: us too, glad to have these meetups
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: commonly cludgy regions can be from 2 sides
[22:47] Shai Khalifa: likewise Eli - but that's because my home is elevated
[22:47] Adec Alexandria: same here Eli thats diff
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: scripting or physics
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: I'll start with the latter
[22:47] Shai Khalifa: home on ground I can do, but not elevated
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: physics can be sped up a bit
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: and made (a little more happy)
[22:47] Sakai Openlife: quite easily
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: just be assessing your region
[22:48] Freyja Bailey: goodevening
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: and it will have a notable effect
[22:48] Elieluen Yareah: yah i mean at all...command shift H doesn't ever work is what i mean
[22:48] Linda McAllister: hoi Fre
[22:48] Shai Khalifa: hi Freyja
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: the first is sculpts
[22:48] Pantaiputih Korobase: hi Fryja
[22:48] Adec Alexandria: yup eli
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: with sculpts the question you should ask
[22:48] Tom Shoes: good eve
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: is do i need to collide with them
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: *bump into etc
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: if you don't
[22:48] Shai Khalifa: yes
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: make them phantom
[22:48] Sakai Openlife: they can be quite expensive on your region
[22:48] Shai Khalifa: I love sculpts just as they are now
[22:48] Grimley Graves: ok, noted :)
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: they can also effect your start up time too
[22:49] Elieluen Yareah: oh that soudns like a great tip
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: and they are the most complex physics object with the highest cost
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: for other things in your region
[22:49] Elieluen Yareah: and can they cause viewer crashes?
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: the same rule applies
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: do i need to collide with that object
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: a good example is moving items
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: birds
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: fish etc
[22:49] Sakai Openlife: these definately because they move
[22:50] Pantaiputih Korobase: I move too
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: if not required to be collidable
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: make them phantom
[22:50] Pantaiputih Korobase: aaah ok
[22:50] Maggie Moonbeam: I have no sculpts, or moving items and still can not use Home tp.
[22:50] Shai Khalifa: I'll tell Jon for his animals as he gets them moving
[22:50] Elieluen Yareah: rofl i'm going to make everything phantom
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: this will also be a big cost saver
[22:50] Pantaiputih Korobase: all animals pahntom :-))
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: I'll explain why
[22:50] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, ELi
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: you region checks all the time
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: (many times per second)
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: what collisions are happenning
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: and am i colliding
[22:50] Sakai Openlife: this is true for your falling through the floor scenario
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: if the check list is high
[22:51] Pantaiputih Korobase: *does his phantom day tomorrow*
[22:51] Elieluen Yareah: that makes sense
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: including non-generic bounding box oibjects
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: (scuplts)
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: group object
[22:51] Elieluen Yareah: lol pants
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: then it comes at a high processing expense
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: yes trees included ie
[22:51] Shai Khalifa: yeah I got a feeling I know what I'll be doing tomorrow too - or today even
[22:51] Sakai Openlife: wind effected prims
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: do i need to collide with it
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: if the answer is no
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: make it phatom
[22:52] Surreal Numbers: i make almost everything phantom. pain in the ass to fly into stuff
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: it will improve a lot of things in your region
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: from general walking
[22:52] Chenoa Senyurt takes note.
[22:52] Maggie Moonbeam: ok, turn trees phantom.
[22:52] Elieluen Yareah: could too many non-pantom sculpts cause viewer crashes?
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: stairs... etc etc
[22:52] Pantaiputih Korobase: what about flexi things, a problem?
[22:52] Surreal Numbers: wind flexi
[22:52] Adec Alexandria: stairs cant be phantom ㋡
[22:52] Sakai Openlife: flexi is also considered moving...
[22:52] Tom Shoes: does it help to devide a parcel with critical objects?
[22:52] Pantaiputih Korobase: well phantom stairs could be a problem
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: so these mean things in physics will have to recalc
[22:53] Digital Dreambuilder: true , nothing more painful than flying into non-phantom tree
[22:53] Surreal Numbers: (i said "almost")
[22:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: digi, your mango trees, ummmmm
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: so if you 'can' phantom do so because things will get a lot smopother when you do
[22:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: outch
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: for floors
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: when you get a lot of avatars
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: it's possible that the number of avatars to calc against
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: exceeds the time
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: allowed per 'slice'
[22:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: make the floor phantom then its natural that you fall through, lol
[22:53] Sakai Openlife: (ie physics load might be high)
[22:53] Shai Khalifa: Freyja I need to talk to you about a couple of my trees I got from you
[22:54] Adec Alexandria: Sakai for floors .. use 10x10 and less than default thick and you have no prob
[22:54] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: thinking about all that stuff we mentioned earlier
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: the two options are yes
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: reduce the prim size
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: this means your physics will check for collision against more item
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: this is good for more av
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: ie less per prim
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: (av)
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: or put another prim
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: inside the top prim
[22:54] Sakai Openlife: ie just a few cm smaller
[22:55] Sakai Openlife: this way if it doesn't catch the first
[22:55] Sakai Openlife: it will likely catch the second
[22:55] Elieluen Yareah: or use stone rather than glass?
[22:55] Surreal Numbers: (side question: is there anything that an be done to ease lag upon av arrival when many avs are on a region?)
[22:55] Sakai Openlife: this is particularly effective for walking across borders too
[22:55] Sakai Openlife: maybe..
[22:55] Sakai Openlife: I would say yes
[22:56] Sakai Openlife: but the reason it is that way is to reduce chance of region crash
[22:56] Klee Openlife: (yes the updated viewers will have a feature to allow selective rendering of avatars )
[22:56] Sakai Openlife: (and our regions are pretty solid now)
[22:56] Klee Openlife: a slider
[22:56] Shai Khalifa: I must admit that generally speaking things seem pretty stable and have done for a long while now
[22:56] Sakai Openlife: for scripting... I won't go there just yet except one sentence
[22:56] Sakai Openlife: if you don't need it turn it off...
[22:57] Pantaiputih Korobase: agree Shai
[22:57] Elieluen Yareah: not for me but that's my viewer crash problem which i still haven't solved
[22:57] Sakai Openlife: only because we're getting low on time right now in this meet)
[22:57] Grimley Graves: ok, one more thing...
[22:57] Sakai Openlife: (sorry i took up so much time)
[22:57] Grimley Graves: on a different subject
[22:57] Sakai Openlife: :p
[22:57] Elieluen Yareah: hehehe
[22:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: we really appreciate these meetings!
[22:58] Grimley Graves: .raw files of regions? and progress?
[22:58] Lion Ewry: I am asked a lot about how many people are here
[22:58] Shai Khalifa: hey we love hearing from you
[22:58] Sakai Openlife: 59,000+
[22:58] Maggie Moonbeam: wow
[22:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: ummm
[22:58] Lion Ewry: How about active though
[22:58] Linda McAllister: and online atm?
[22:58] Sakai Openlife: .raw files I think we must redo your estate to correct... but i did find another bug about that last week
[22:58] Shai Khalifa: any chance we can get a concurrency count for us to see?
[22:58] Sakai Openlife: to do with bad download
[22:58] Grimley Graves: the raw file problem is driving us all crazy
[22:58] Lion Ewry: Most people say the only see 10 or 12
[22:58] Digital Dreambuilder: agreed
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: the solution we found wasn't a pretty one
[22:59] Pantaiputih Korobase: it is only 10 to 12 usually
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: when we reduced 'revisions'
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: count down to 0
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: (new fresh terrain)
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: we got perfect downloads again on the same region
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: I've been doing a little work
[22:59] Tom Shoes: we have been 20 tonight at Freyjas ballroom
[22:59] Sakai Openlife: on a 'bake' revert function
[22:59] Shai Khalifa: so it's something to do with the number of revisions?
[22:59] Tom Shoes: thats more than 12 :)
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: if i can finish this
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: then
[23:00] Pantaiputih Korobase: hehe, true
[23:00] Elieluen Yareah: what counts as a revision?
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: this would fix the issue for those ppl
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: allowing a bake
[23:00] Elieluen Yareah: ah ok
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: which would write out a new file as 0
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: and then revert to load that 0
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: overwriting all revisions
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: and it will download o
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: ok
[23:00] Shai Khalifa: which is what we need
[23:00] Sakai Openlife: so I'm on it
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: just not yet finished it
[23:01] Grimley Graves: as long as it's being looked into
[23:01] Shai Khalifa: hugs mate
[23:01] Adec Alexandria: Sakai .. do you or KLee have any views on voice in OL .. in any way or form ?
[23:01] Elieluen Yareah: i'm havign big time terraform issues atm but will try speak with you later about it
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: I can say...
[23:01] Grimley Graves: it's MY biggest fear
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: voice...
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: lol
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: no
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: seriously we want voice
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: but
[23:01] Adec Alexandria: me too
[23:01] Adec Alexandria: even thrui skype
[23:01] Shai Khalifa: no voice, no voice
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: i think it will arrive on the next platform instead
[23:01] Sakai Openlife: and the reaosn there
[23:01] dora battery: lol noooo
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: is that if it's not native boice
[23:02] Adec Alexandria: shai we need it or project lol
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: voice
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: then you'll find it's tricky or too hard
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: for many users
[23:02] Elieluen Yareah: i've been fine so far using skype instead
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: if you can skype then you can skype with friends already
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: so trying to integrate a skype solution may not be so pretty
[23:02] Elieluen Yareah: yah indeed
[23:02] Adec Alexandria: just an inworld project where we need voice .. will work around it
[23:02] Sakai Openlife: or integrate anything that's 3rd party outside the viewer
[23:03] Sakai Openlife: the moment we start asking users
[23:03] Surreal Numbers: yes we had an inworld projec tin mind.
[23:03] Sakai Openlife: to use 2 programs...
[23:03] Elieluen Yareah: personally i don't think voice is a high priority anyway
[23:03] Sakai Openlife: well it get's a bit dicky
[23:03] Shai Khalifa: much more pressing issues to be dealt with
[23:03] Elieluen Yareah: yah
[23:03] Sakai Openlife: so the right solution would be integrated but inside the current viewer is definately going to be too inefficient use of time
[23:03] Grimley Graves: agreed
[23:03] Shai Khalifa: Adec, I have a solution for us
[23:03] Elieluen Yareah: like group perms and delinking obejcts
[23:03] Sakai Openlife: so it's a tick for the new solution instead
[23:04] Adec Alexandria: k shai
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: the line of thought is pretty simple
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: on some features
[23:04] Linda McAllister: and picks, and bio?
[23:04] Linda McAllister: search
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: if it's easier to do in the next platform
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: put it there
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: because otherwise
[23:04] Shai Khalifa: makes sense to me
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: we're going to do it twice
[23:04] Elieluen Yareah: i imagine most things will be easier in the next platform
[23:04] Grimley Graves: no point in that
[23:04] Sakai Openlife: and put the next platform even further away
[23:05] Lion Ewry: What is the time fram for the new platform?
[23:05] Shai Khalifa: the sooner we're away from the LL way of doing things the better
[23:05] Elieluen Yareah: yah agreed
[23:05] Pantaiputih Korobase: what does the new platform anyway in general?
[23:05] Clay Duport: agree with shai
[23:05] Shai Khalifa: sounds like a good seguet to me Sakai
[23:05] Grimley Graves: yep, start part two
[23:05] Digital Dreambuilder: can we now talk abt new platform ?
[23:05] Elieluen Yareah does the seguet dance
[23:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: *•.¸'*•.¸ ♥ ¸.•*´¸.•*
[23:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: .•*♥¨`• BRAVO!!!! •¨`♥*•.
[23:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: ¸.•*`¸.•*´ ♥ `*•.¸`*•.¸
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: hehe nice
[23:06] Digital Dreambuilder: ( zzzz late for me )
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: o
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: ok
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: yes
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: moving right along
[23:06] Surreal Numbers: good night digi. sleep well
[23:06] Clay Duport: speaking of the new platform have anything to say sakai
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: i need 2 mins to upload a few things
[23:06] Elieluen Yareah: bye digi
[23:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: nn digi - if all are ok with it, I'll post the meeting text on my site
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: it's been good to see u digi
[23:06] Shai Khalifa: hugs Digi
[23:06] Digital Dreambuilder: whoah not gone yet
[23:06] Tom Shoes: My wish would be a free YouTube service by OLG. This would be unique. As YouTube always changes the way to acess it by PHP it isnt free anymore in SL. If OLG offers and updates it for free - this would be great!
[23:06] Grimley Graves: amazing how that worked out :D
[23:06] Shai Khalifa: lol
[23:06] Elieluen Yareah: ok meantime shai is going to grace us with a lovely version of 'I will survive' by Gloria gaynor
[23:06] Digital Dreambuilder: ill hing in here a little while
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: youtube ... share video?
[23:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Eli
[23:06] Sakai Openlife: on the wwebsite.?
[23:07] Tom Shoes: see viedeos
[23:07] Tom Shoes: youtube TV
[23:07] Shai Khalifa: shuddup Eli - lol
[23:07] Elieluen Yareah: hehehe
[23:07] Tom Shoes: watch music
[23:07] Surreal Numbers: ok. that was a pre-emptive good night then :P
[23:07] Digital Dreambuilder: just a virtual jogging it along
[23:07] Tom Shoes: not Website .. in Media .. tv .. here
[23:08] Tom Shoes: it is one of the nicest things in virtual worlds for me
[23:08] Shai Khalifa: Sakai's gone off to get his notes for part 2
[23:08] Tom Shoes: to see music videos with friends
[23:08] Shai Khalifa: lol
[23:08] Shai Khalifa: and more coffee
[23:08] Maggie Moonbeam: I have had many friends what to come see OL, they sign up, and never get an email with confirmation.. I tried to do a new avi, to see, and same problem. Is it necessary to have a confirmation code?
[23:08] Shai Khalifa: and a ciggie
[23:08] Linda McAllister: grim want a Ipad :P
[23:08] Dawny Openlife: prolly getting a coffee ^^
[23:08] Grimley Graves: mmmmm coffee
[23:08] Sakai Openlife: ok
[23:08] Sakai Openlife: back
[23:08] Grimley Graves: hehe, not this version
[23:08] Surreal Numbers: caffeine IV fell out
[23:08] Pantaiputih Korobase: nope, why confirmation as a new avi?
[23:08] Linda McAllister: but what about bio, picks and search?
[23:09] Grimley Graves: maybe version 2.0
[23:09] Elieluen Yareah: ooo a box
[23:09] Elieluen Yareah: oo a bigger box
[23:09] Shai Khalifa: a flat box
[23:09] Elieluen Yareah: oh my
[23:09] Dawny Openlife: o>O
[23:09] Linda McAllister: omg..a box...how do you do that!
[23:09] Shai Khalifa: omg, that's our new avatar isn't it
[23:09] Dawny Openlife: thats not me.....
[23:09] Elieluen Yareah: is this victoria secret meeting?
[23:09] Pantaiputih Korobase: search works basically as long as we all feed the region with our info, people can check on the map and TP then (if TP works)
[23:09] Grimley Graves: a box with BOOBIES
[23:09] Dawny Openlife: she looks like me tho ;)
[23:09] Adec Alexandria: shes hawt
[23:09] Adec Alexandria: lol
[23:09] Sakai Openlife: hehe
[23:09] Linda McAllister: grim!
[23:10] Grimley Graves: what??
[23:10] Adec Alexandria: did u base that on Dawny RL ?
[23:10] Shai Khalifa: Adec's in luuurrve
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: ok so we need to ask a few things here
[23:10] Linda McAllister: caps! ;)
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: basically about the new platform
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: so this is very much a feedback meet
[23:10] Elieluen Yareah: don't tell me this is av2?
[23:10] Shai Khalifa shuts up
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: and whatever bits of information fall out of me
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: I apoligize
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: it's suppose to be a big secret
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: lol
[23:10] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[23:10] Maggie Moonbeam: lol
[23:10] Elieluen Yareah: that's amazing
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: this is only a maybe
[23:10] Sakai Openlife: that this is our new av
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: the reason being
[23:11] Linda McAllister: hehe this is a soon? ;)
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: it's just a screenshot of model
[23:11] Grimley Graves: lin!!
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: but the idea here
[23:11] Linda McAllister: oops :)
[23:11] Pantaiputih Korobase: it is most probably a soon or similar :-))
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: is to show you a bunch of rendered av's
[23:11] Grimley Graves: hehe
[23:11] Elieluen Yareah: is that really how high the mesh res will get?
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: to understand what you like
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: it can yes
[23:11] Adec Alexandria: do you have a male with blue hair ?
[23:11] Grimley Graves: ZOMBIES lol
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: this level of detail is most certainly possible
[23:11] Elieluen Yareah: i am totally aghast
[23:11] Tom Shoes: ok .. soon you will see Tammy Heels instead of Tom Shoes!
[23:11] Shai Khalifa: noice
[23:11] Sakai Openlife: in fact the tests I've done so far can yield some really impressive avatars
[23:12] Dawny Openlife: lol
[23:12] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Tom
[23:12] Linda McAllister: hehe Tom
[23:12] Sakai Openlife: so the question here really is what level of 'realism'
[23:12] Tom Shoes: :)))
[23:12] Sakai Openlife: do users really want
[23:12] Adec Alexandria: how many attachment points on new aV ?
[23:12] Linda McAllister shouts: YES!!
[23:12] Sakai Openlife: I'll show you another image
[23:12] Elieluen Yareah: so real you can even see the warts on her nose
[23:13] Linda McAllister: and clothing would be diff too?
[23:13] Linda McAllister: daz!
[23:13] Grimley Graves: using DAZ?
[23:13] Tom Shoes: poser
[23:13] Elieluen Yareah: can i be put into cryogentic stasis until these come out?
[23:13] Sakai Openlife: some of these are daz
[23:13] Shai Khalifa: lol eli
[23:13] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, ELI, lollollol
[23:13] Sakai Openlife: (hint yes you could use daz for the new platform)
[23:14] Adec Alexandria: Sakai is anything diff to now .. apart from a great default skin ?
[23:14] Dawny Openlife: lol eli
[23:14] Pantaiputih Korobase: we can camp wioth Grims, Eli
[23:14] Elieluen Yareah: lol
[23:14] Linda McAllister: finally nekked male! :))
[23:14] Shai Khalifa: the whole body contouring is different
[23:14] Maggie Moonbeam: wow, nice avi's
[23:14] Shai Khalifa: we'd have FEET
[23:14] Linda McAllister: omg..feet??
[23:14] Elieluen Yareah: the resolution is far far greater
[23:14] Adec Alexandria: would we have clothing / skin templates freely available ?
[23:14] Pantaiputih Korobase: if we had shoes, we would not need feet all the time, hehe
[23:15] Sakai Openlife: i feel like i'm surrounded now.
[23:15] Shai Khalifa: I don't like the cartoon thing at all
[23:15] Elieluen Yareah: that one of 'Boy in Lycra' is very manga
[23:15] Shai Khalifa: I think where avis are concerned they need to be realistic as possible
[23:15] Cheops Forlife: yes don't like manga
[23:15] Shai Khalifa: that's everyone's dream
[23:15] Adec Alexandria: need templates
[23:15] Sakai Openlife: ok so my first question about this random bunch of images i put up
[23:15] Shai Khalifa: then option is for the manga look if want
[23:15] Pantaiputih Korobase: well, our Asian residents might like it
[23:15] Elieluen Yareah: yah for sure
[23:15] Sakai Openlife: is realism
[23:15] Elieluen Yareah: manga has it's place
[23:15] Sakai Openlife: ie should an av look very 'real' or just very high qualilty
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: an example here
[23:16] Linda McAllister: a new chalange to make new stuff
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: is that the one on my far left
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: girl in blue pants
[23:16] Adec Alexandria: girl in reb/brown bikini is joining me on VL romantic parcel later
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: she is actually VERY high quality render
[23:16] Pantaiputih Korobase: high quality implies that you can do realistic too
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: but realism is low
[23:16] Dawny Openlife: hahahah
[23:16] Shai Khalifa: lol
[23:16] Elieluen Yareah: no girl in blue pants is far too 'The Incredibles'
[23:16] Elieluen Yareah: not worthy of OL
[23:16] Grimley Graves: I think we should be able to choose, real or cartoon
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: the guy behind me also high quality
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: buy low realism
[23:16] Linda McAllister: real :P
[23:16] Sakai Openlife: but
[23:16] Grimley Graves: via skin selection
[23:16] Tom Shoes: i think we should set this avas phantom then to reduce lag .. right?
[23:16] Shai Khalifa: yeah, do NOT want that, it's why I'm not in any of those kindergarten worlds
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: why does it matter u might ask/
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: because the default Avatar skeleton
[23:17] Elieluen Yareah: why does it matter
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: is very much impacted by this decision
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: for example
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: all of these models are multimesh
[23:17] Grimley Graves: ah, then go with real
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: the nose in some examples
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: is very real
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: but a simple nbose
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: saves render time
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: (faster)
[23:17] Sakai Openlife: but lacks realism
[23:18] Pantaiputih Korobase: I want fast noses
[23:18] Adec Alexandria: girl in bikin wins then
[23:18] Elieluen Yareah: so it can't be an option for how a viewer renders instead?
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: so we want to know how 'real' users really want to go
[23:18] Klee Openlife: hope everyones got an nvidia 250 GTS or higher ^^
[23:18] Pantaiputih Korobase: or simply fast hardware
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: will there be multiple AV types...
[23:18] Shai Khalifa: the guy in lycra p ic is probably a not too bad median then
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: 'yes'
[23:18] Tom Shoes: how about a nose racing pants?
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: (not expanding there
[23:18] Grimley Graves: hmm, we'll pay a price for realism
[23:18] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, tom
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: yes you will
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: the more realism
[23:18] Shai Khalifa: no, we can't restrict the graphics requirements
[23:18] Sakai Openlife: the higher the (graphics) cost
[23:19] Shai Khalifa: so we have to go for what will work for both majors
[23:19] Elieluen Yareah: hmmm but can there be a slider for how real a viewer renders it?
[23:19] Shai Khalifa: radeon and nvidia
[23:19] Pantaiputih Korobase: so, cubisitc avatars are the best
[23:19] Lion Ewry: What do you recommend Sakai?
[23:19] Pantaiputih Korobase: new prim 0.5 0.5 0.5 :-))
[23:19] Sakai Openlife: however needless to say... we're not saying u must look 'only' like a well rednered perfect supermodel human
[23:19] Adec Alexandria: like the option for Avatar Imposters .. couldnt we have a setting for Low rez AVs /
[23:19] Tom Shoes: lol
[23:19] Sakai Openlife: this is why we are looking to allow multiple Skeletons
[23:19] Sakai Openlife: (as mentioned in the first next platform event)
[23:20] Sakai Openlife: but these skeletons are provided to you
[23:20] Sakai Openlife: by us
[23:20] Sakai Openlife: (you may skin etc the skeleton)
[23:20] Sakai Openlife: how you like
[23:20] Grimley Graves: that would be cool, tinys, and the like
[23:20] Shai Khalifa: would there be an option to be able to upgrade skeleton if need be?
[23:20] Pantaiputih Korobase: yep, sounds interesting
[23:20] Clay Duport: knarly
[23:20] Pantaiputih Korobase: awful undies
[23:20] Linda McAllister: I can have 1 arm then?
[23:20] Adec Alexandria: freaky eyes
[23:20] Cheops Forlife: this one needs to eat spinash
[23:20] Adec Alexandria: too manga
[23:20] Maggie Moonbeam: So, the girl in blue? can she be given a skin to look like the victoria secret one?
[23:21] Grimley Graves: I can lend you mine Lin
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: so as an example
[23:21] Linda McAllister: lol
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: we saw the girl in blue
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: she was very cartoony
[23:21] Elieluen Yareah: i mean i think both skeletons look really good
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: it would be very possible
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: to see both that cartoony look skeleton
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: and a more human (realism) skeleton
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: in the same scene
[23:21] Elieluen Yareah: e shouldn't forget that this is VR hyperreality and there is no need for complete realism really
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: or to even theme your scene
[23:21] Shai Khalifa: that would work
[23:21] Linda McAllister: so you need also new animations?
[23:21] Sakai Openlife: to allow only a particular skeleton type
[23:21] Adec Alexandria: i'd lose manga personally
[23:21] Shai Khalifa: give people a greater choice for expression
[23:22] Tom Shoes: realism for example would be to look like bob dylan 2010
[23:22] Lion Ewry: Me too Adec
[23:22] Sakai Openlife: exactly this is why we will have more than one skeleton
[23:22] Clay Duport: and one mulitple looks almost liek the sims game avatars
[23:22] Surreal Numbers: manga hardly defines realism
[23:22] Sakai Openlife: in all we use a 72 bone skeleton in all cases
[23:22] Grimley Graves: ewww Tom
[23:22] Sakai Openlife: (oops leak)
[23:22] Digital Dreambuilder: How much does the choice of avatar here affect the rest of the world they live in ? ie were talking about a different grid , unlike the one we ar in ?
[23:22] Adec Alexandria: 72 bones = 72 attachment points ?
[23:22] Sakai Openlife: well it effects
[23:23] Shai Khalifa takes note of media leaks
[23:23] Sakai Openlife: because first it will be you
[23:23] Pantaiputih Korobase: Adec attachemtn addict :-)))
[23:23] Sakai Openlife: and 2nd it will be those you see
[23:23] Linda McAllister: Sakai, animations?
[23:23] Maggie Moonbeam: I like the real looking, but will it cause a lag filled world with a larger population?
[23:23] Dawny Openlife: 10 inch Adec hihihi
[23:23] Elieluen Yareah: i'm with you maggie
[23:23] Sakai Openlife: we have technical solutions for high AV numbers in a scene
[23:23] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Dawny
[23:23] Sakai Openlife: that's definately mroe intelligent than nw
[23:23] Sakai Openlife: now
[23:23] Adec Alexandria: hihi Dawny can make attachments for that point too
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: Here's some things that probably aren't crossing the line in 'leaks;
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: there are no borders...
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: no region corssings
[23:24] Shai Khalifa: yay
[23:24] Clay Duport: hmmm
[23:24] Maggie Moonbeam: I am sorry I am vien, I like to be a High class Barbie.. it is part of why I like VW's. I get to play barbie.
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: (thinking about other things i can say without saying too much)
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: ...
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: ...
[23:24] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol maggie
[23:24] Adec Alexandria: Maggie we know
[23:24] Sakai Openlife: well this is correct
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: we know a virtual world
[23:25] Tom Shoes: thats wasnt much :)
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: should be what you want it
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: so giving you more choice
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: is important
[23:25] Maggie Moonbeam: :)
[23:25] Clay Duport: sex drugs and rock n roll
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: there are 'worlds....
[23:25] Shai Khalifa: smiles
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: the concept of a 'region' is replaced
[23:25] Digital Dreambuilder: but when we log in to this new platform it will be a very different world to this , unless we 'move; regions from here to it ??
[23:25] Shai Khalifa: I'd love to have smiles on avatars
[23:25] Shai Khalifa: or basic facial expressions
[23:25] Sakai Openlife: we also have something smaller than a region
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: (and larger)
[23:26] Elieluen Yareah: continents?
[23:26] Maggie Moonbeam: nice
[23:26] Adec Alexandria: Sakai is old world all compatible with new world ?
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: but it is continous
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: we're working on that
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: to rewind a little
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: to first meeting
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: before mcing forward
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: ooving
[23:26] Lion Ewry: Will we stil be ablle to control our own space?
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: (lol typeeeeee)_
[23:26] Lion Ewry: Bann etc
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: um
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: where was i
[23:26] Sakai Openlife: yes yes yes
[23:27] Clay Duport: how long to beta
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: yes control
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: yes ban
[23:27] Shai Khalifa: start witht he basics of the new 'region'
[23:27] Adec Alexandria: old world being compat
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: (and more)
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: compat
[23:27] Surreal Numbers: explaining whther our current builds will be compatible with new platform
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: yes initially
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: when you first get to see it
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: there won't be anything from here there
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: but
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: here will still be here
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: and it will be closed testing
[23:27] Linda McAllister: whats in the coffee??
[23:27] Pantaiputih Korobase: sctratches head
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: (invitiation only)
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: a little later
[23:27] Surreal Numbers: ok how do we get from here to there then?
[23:27] Sakai Openlife: it will be for all residents to test
[23:27] Maggie Moonbeam: very confused.
[23:27] Adec Alexandria: good ques
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: (only residents from a particular date)
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: so semi closed testing
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: here is still here
[23:28] Clay Duport: and that date is ?
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: then they will run parrallel
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: so you can use here and there
[23:28] Tom Shoes: dont ask sakai about dates!
[23:28] Pantaiputih Korobase: parralell, I like
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: then when the consensus
[23:28] Shai Khalifa: both worlds will exist people, for a start this new one will be test only
[23:28] Pantaiputih Korobase: mutliworlding
[23:28] Adec Alexandria: but what happens to the sofa i made a year ago ?
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: is that we all want to be there
[23:28] Linda McAllister: he will say...soon :P
[23:28] Maggie Moonbeam: will we all be able to tour there?
[23:28] Surreal Numbers: i guess what some of us are asking is will we be able to move the work as it stands from this platform to the new one?
[23:28] Sakai Openlife: there will only be there
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: will we be able to mvoe items
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: we most certainly want to
[23:29] Adec Alexandria: yes Sur ... will all current builds transfer
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: and will work towards an importer
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: (automated)
[23:29] Linda McAllister: can I sit on my sofa with my new avie?
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: not a viewer thing
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: that could send items
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: from here to there
[23:29] Elieluen Yareah: but how about whole rgions as opposed to just inventory importing
[23:29] Sakai Openlife: whille the worlds are in parrallel
[23:29] Adec Alexandria: so your not 100% sure Sakai that all current inworld built items will survive ?
[23:29] Digital Dreambuilder: and land contured/terraformed the same ?
[23:29] Surreal Numbers: items? what about entire 4 region clusters intact?
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: SSO: -> Send all items to there
[23:30] Maggie Moonbeam: scratches my head.. so OL will be two worlds?
[23:30] Shai Khalifa: guys, let him speak
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: it's definately a little complex here
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: when we talk about the 2 places
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: but
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: the crust is we will try to make it as painless as possible
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: and try to make it possible to import as much as possible
[23:30] Sakai Openlife: and as smoothly as we can
[23:31] Linda McAllister: and those plans are for...201* ?
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: we know you spend time to make wonderful creation here
[23:31] Cheops Forlife: 202*
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: we don't want you to lose them
[23:31] Pantaiputih Korobase: 203
[23:31] Pantaiputih Korobase: *
[23:31] Linda McAllister: lol cheo
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: you will get to use the new world this year
[23:31] Elieluen Yareah: but the new platform will eb able to handle high res meshes right? so people may well want to start over witha new clean region
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: if we all make the transition
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: this year
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: will really depend on the community
[23:31] Sakai Openlife: and when we all feel comfortable to do so
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: and technically up to scratch
[23:32] Cheops Forlife: we are a nice community ;-)
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: we are not going backwards that's for sure
[23:32] Linda McAllister: still getting new peeps?
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: I know there's likely many very detailed questions
[23:32] Elieluen Yareah: i'm really soo soo excited abotu this move to the new platform
[23:32] Shai Khalifa: so we will be able to make a gradual transition of our stuff over a period of time?
[23:32] Freyja Bailey: will it be possible to build inworld there? Or can we also use mesh-programs for building and import it?
[23:32] Elieluen Yareah: leave this old world to the hand land
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: and I'll try to answer as we go along
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: that i can answer
[23:32] Sakai Openlife: yes and YES
[23:33] Sakai Openlife: import mesh and build in world
[23:33] Linda McAllister: WHAAAAA YES YES YES!
[23:33] Sakai Openlife: build by nurb (or what is called primmitive here)
[23:33] Shai Khalifa: oh sooooooooo coool
[23:33] Freyja Bailey: which meshprogram could we use for it?
[23:33] Pantaiputih Korobase: well, if you can transfer us at the state we are when transfer is to be ready, all ok with me, if this is not 100% possible, we need to know what is possible and what not and there is a risk that you loose some of the current residents
[23:33] Elieluen Yareah: i'm going to have to remake all my old sculpties with far more detail now...how eciting!!!!
[23:33] Sakai Openlife: yes this is right Pants
[23:33] Sakai Openlife: we want a smooth transition
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: so we're not closing any options here
[23:34] Maggie Moonbeam: so, will we have to pay for both "worlds"
[23:34] Linda McAllister: freedom of sculpts...waiting for that a long time
[23:34] Shai Khalifa: Sakai, is it possible for you to open a new part of the website for this alone, and to give us an FAQ on it?
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: no only pay for the one you are in
[23:34] Maggie Moonbeam: ok
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: basically
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: we're not charging anything on the new platform
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: until we make the transition
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: or it's worth paying
[23:34] Elieluen Yareah: i really think people shoudl think about not bringing over all their old stuff...point is to make a new world i think
[23:34] Sakai Openlife: because it';s become your primary world
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: I know everyone probably has different ideas about content
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: new / import
[23:35] Pantaiputih Korobase: some old stuff is nice though, eli
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: but we want to keep the options open
[23:35] Shai Khalifa: this sounds like the Second Inventory debate again
[23:35] Elieluen Yareah: yah for sure
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: there is definately some fabulous work here
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: particularly with structures
[23:35] Tom Shoes: yes you are, Pants :)
[23:35] Pantaiputih Korobase: only if it is not behaving nicely......... should be ......
[23:35] Sakai Openlife: that are worth the time to import over
[23:36] Shai Khalifa: I don't want to lose all I've done on Zanith or Phaedran
[23:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: pfff Tom
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: but there's also that which we shouldn't
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: which is why we won't just import everything by default
[23:36] Shai Khalifa: wise move
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: (you probably don't need the 4000 prims in your trash can)
[23:36] Linda McAllister: well...start over...again :((( no tnx
[23:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Sakai
[23:36] Elieluen Yareah: i think i shoudl be voted grand chancellor overseeing what is allowed to be brought over and not
[23:36] Elieluen Yareah: lol
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: but
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: what do want to ask
[23:36] Shai Khalifa slaps Eli
[23:36] Sakai Openlife: is if a user group was made
[23:36] Maggie Moonbeam: But all my textures would stay with my UI, and I dont have to redownload it all at cost?
[23:36] Pantaiputih Korobase: leave my chicken, ELi!
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: (not run)
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: not run by me
[23:37] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: to help consult to us
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: we would welcome it
[23:37] Digital Dreambuilder: issues like how animations/behaviours and interaction inworld (scripting/[programming ) need to be discussed
[23:37] Freyja Bailey: as i use many sculpties here shall it mean that i have to build from scratch there....no sculpties
[23:37] Surreal Numbers: when you spend 12 months on a build, you want to bring it over intact.
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: perhaps Dawny could help organise this
[23:37] Shai Khalifa: I'm in Dawny
[23:37] Tom Shoes: agree digi
[23:37] Elieluen Yareah: well sculpties are just lower es meshes though
[23:37] Elieluen Yareah: res*
[23:37] Linda McAllister: im retired :)
[23:37] Grimley Graves: I'm in too
[23:37] Sakai Openlife: the idea being that the user group would organise their own meets
[23:38] Sakai Openlife: to discuss items/issues friendly like
[23:38] Sakai Openlife: to talk with us
[23:38] Shai Khalifa: Add Jon Haskell to that list too Dawny
[23:38] Sakai Openlife: including concerns too
[23:38] Maggie Moonbeam: I would like to be involved, but admit, I dont understand alot of it.
[23:38] Clay Duport: cclay duport want to be on list
[23:39] Sakai Openlife: you don't need to be entirely technical
[23:39] Elieluen Yareah: me too
[23:39] Clay Duport: clay duport
[23:39] Elieluen Yareah: oh and elieuen as wlel
[23:39] Sakai Openlife: just have a passion for virtual worlds (our world)
[23:39] Pantaiputih Korobase: how much time involved a month?
[23:39] Pantaiputih Korobase: about
[23:39] Sakai Openlife: and want to express your wishes / dreams to us
[23:39] Shai Khalifa: up to you Pants
[23:39] dora battery: ok i have a question sakai if i may
[23:39] Maggie Moonbeam: that I have.. this is more real to me than RL at times. BLushes.
[23:39] Sakai Openlife: time would be entirely up to your group
[23:39] Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, so add me
[23:39] Dawny Openlife makes a note adding Jon
[23:39] Cheops Forlife: the first email we made after the last meeting is sitll used?
[23:39] Freyja Bailey: and you can add me too, Dawny
[23:39] Sakai Openlife: I think
[23:39] Lion Ewry: Count me in too Dawny
[23:39] dora battery: will we be able to trans money
[23:40] Sakai Openlife: the user group and user driven would be better
[23:40] Sakai Openlife: credits WILL go across
[23:40] Surreal Numbers: are we already added if we send email back when there was the first meeting?
[23:40] Surreal Numbers: sent*
[23:40] Chenoa Senyurt: Please add me as well, Dawny. Thanks.
[23:40] Elieluen Yareah: me too if i'm not already on it
[23:40] Clay Duport: me to dawny pleassseee
[23:40] Sakai Openlife: I'll send the emails to Dawny
[23:40] Sakai Openlife: during the week
[23:40] Tom Shoes: Count me in too Dawny´
[23:40] Digital Dreambuilder: Dawny , ditto
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: ok a spill
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: (leak)
[23:41] Linda McAllister: okay, pleur me dr maar in Dawn
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: I'll tease you a little here
[23:41] Surreal Numbers: please add me.
[23:41] Shai Khalifa gets pen ready
[23:41] Grimley Graves: YAY Lin
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: with something i played with during this week
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: the new terrain system
[23:41] Linda McAllister: you did not understand that
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: is 'paintable'
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: so
[23:41] Tom Shoes: Dora, you wanted to ask something?
[23:41] Elieluen Yareah: oooooooo
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: what does that mean?
[23:41] Maggie Moonbeam: oooooooooo
[23:41] Linda McAllister: :P
[23:41] Grimley Graves: ooooooooo
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: it means you can choose tectures
[23:41] Shai Khalifa: no more digging???
[23:41] dora battery: lol i ask taks any way tom
[23:41] Sakai Openlife: and apply them to the ground
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: where you want them
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: (currently 4 layers)
[23:42] Maggie Moonbeam: sweet
[23:42] Grimley Graves: OOOOOOOOOOOO
[23:42] Elieluen Yareah: as if you are painting the ground
[23:42] Shai Khalifa: omg sooooooo good
[23:42] Shai Khalifa: yayayayayayay
[23:42] Grimley Graves: DROOOOOOOL
[23:42] Shai Khalifa: and we can add sounds to those textures???
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: so you can use the brush
[23:42] Elieluen Yareah: rofl shai
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: to make a path
[23:42] Shai Khalifa: so when we cross from grass to rock it SOUNDS like it??
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: (example)
[23:42] Freyja Bailey: wow
[23:42] Grimley Graves: yeah, like roads, and trails?
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: at present where you get the textures appearing
[23:42] Sakai Openlife: is actually random
[23:42] Grimley Graves: YUUMMMMM
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: with influence by height
[23:43] Linda McAllister: more hen 4 layers??? *drools*
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: the new system allows you to just maint it the way you want it
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: (paint)
[23:43] Elieluen Yareah: so acutally there won't even be layers anymore?
[23:43] Shai Khalifa: ok, I'm ready to move ..... got my bags packed with P and Z
[23:43] Linda McAllister: nice!
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: not reallyt
[23:43] Pantaiputih Korobase: aaah interesting
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: just paint away
[23:43] Grimley Graves: LOL Shai
[23:43] Linda McAllister: where can I buy a ticket???
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: if you want a bit of sand somewhere
[23:43] Sakai Openlife: just put it there
[23:43] Pantaiputih Korobase: purple meadows
[23:43] Maggie Moonbeam: so we can paint ground in PSP and apply?
[23:44] Linda McAllister: great for your caves grim!
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: the brush can size right up to about 100m
[23:44] Shai Khalifa: no it's the editor Maggie
[23:44] Dell Battery: what will the resolution be for the ground textures ? good enough for photos ? will the grif still be divided by 256x256 ?
[23:44] Elieluen Yareah: you've been smoking too much of those pruple flowered medows already
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: and down to 1m
[23:44] Maggie Moonbeam: ok
[23:44] Pantaiputih Korobase: ELi, lol
[23:44] Grimley Graves: can you do that on prims too? (pretty please)
[23:44] Shai Khalifa: along with the digger I presume
[23:44] Elieluen Yareah: hehehe
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: I was using 1024x1024 images... this week
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: the images will blend
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: so there is a 'transition' state between the edges
[23:44] Sakai Openlife: (not hard lines)
[23:44] Shai Khalifa: oh nice
[23:45] Maggie Moonbeam: oh sweet, gets in line for train to tomorrow.
[23:45] Dell Battery: so no photos on the ground
[23:45] Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, would be fun on prims too and even more fun would be to be able to have more default rpims structures or draw them in some way (now pants is going crazy)
[23:45] Elieluen Yareah: but you can have ahard line if you want though right?
[23:45] Sakai Openlife: mmm not yet....
[23:45] Shai Khalifa: lol bye bye SL - and OZgrid et al, you all gooing to be Dodos
[23:45] Adec Alexandria: what happened to Scene Flip or whatever it was called ?
[23:45] Sakai Openlife: but it's pretty 'tight'
[23:45] Elieluen Yareah: for isntane path edges sometimes would be better hard line transition
[23:45] Freyja Bailey: bedtime here.......was very interesting.......a real new adventure. Goodnight, all...have a great weekend
[23:45] Sakai Openlife: if you hold the brush
[23:45] Pantaiputih Korobase: nn Freyja
[23:45] Elieluen Yareah: night frejya
[23:46] Sakai Openlife: over the same area
[23:46] Shai Khalifa: night freyja my friend
[23:46] Linda McAllister: slaap lekker Fre!
[23:46] Freyja Bailey: *waves*
[23:46] Sakai Openlife: for longer
[23:46] Trista sohl: night , Frey
[23:46] Surreal Numbers: good night freyja. :)
[23:46] Maggie Moonbeam: night Freyja
[23:46] Sakai Openlife: the transition is smaller
[23:46] Grimley Graves: Nite Freyja, thanks for the event
[23:46] Clay Duport: night freya
[23:46] Cheops Forlife: night Freyja
[23:46] Dawny Openlife: Bye bye Freyja
[23:46] Sakai Openlife: so you can apply 'force' to that image
[23:46] Elieluen Yareah: ah i c
[23:46] Chenoa Senyurt: Good night, Freyja. : )
[23:46] Elieluen Yareah: that's really awesome
[23:46] Elieluen Yareah: just like photoshop in 3d really
[23:46] Linda McAllister: *sigh* monts away....
[23:46] Elieluen Yareah: i wonder if you can mask too
[23:46] Linda McAllister: h
[23:46] Sakai Openlife: but yes that stuff 'works'
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: and just thought I'd leak something nice to make you smile
[23:47] Grimley Graves: worked :)
[23:47] Maggie Moonbeam: shows her bright white smile.
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: we've been thinking alot about how to 'improve'
[23:47] Adec Alexandria: Sakai .. scene flip ?
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: and remove boundaries we are familiar with
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: Scene flip for present workd?
[23:47] Linda McAllister: a new avie mesh is a good start :)
[23:47] Shai Khalifa: so we get in the new world to play (which is Windows only at the moment right?). Do we get to have our own place to play in??
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: (world)
[23:47] Elieluen Yareah: i've got a great idea for a ne region type
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: it's about 70%
[23:47] Sakai Openlife: (scene flip)
[23:48] Adec Alexandria: there was the idea we could flip sim ideas
[23:48] Sakai Openlife: perhaps next month when we've cleared this months plate
[23:48] Sakai Openlife: we can address it ;)
[23:48] Dawny Openlife: ah thats monday then :P
[23:48] Sakai Openlife: (not trying to overload everyone too much )
[23:48] Linda McAllister: lol dawny
[23:48] Clay Duport: too late satak lol
[23:48] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol. dawny
[23:48] Clay Duport: sakai
[23:48] Digital Dreambuilder: ( Ok all - definately zzzzzz time for me now - gnight alll - see you soon )
[23:48] Maggie Moonbeam: The only thing I have wished for in the past.. is the ability to move the hole in a prim off center. SO if I take a square and put a round hole in it, it does not have to be perfectly centered.
[23:48] Surreal Numbers: bye digi
[23:48] Dawny Openlife: Sleep well Digi
[23:48] Grimley Graves: see ya Digi
[23:48] Linda McAllister: night night Digi
[23:48] Shai Khalifa: night Digi mate
[23:48] Cheops Forlife: bye Digi
[23:48] Chenoa Senyurt: Night Digi
[23:48] Sakai Openlife: some others little bits...
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: ...
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: ragdoll...
[23:49] Digital Dreambuilder: gnight all
[23:49] Clay Duport: nite digi
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: inverse kinematics...
[23:49] dora battery: night dig
[23:49] Tom Shoes: for me too
[23:49] Maggie Moonbeam: night digi
[23:49] Digital Dreambuilder goes poof
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: ciao digi
[23:49] Surreal Numbers: bye tom
[23:49] Pantaiputih Korobase: nn digi
[23:49] Elieluen Yareah: bye digi
[23:49] Pantaiputih Korobase: and Tom
[23:49] Tom Shoes: thank you all for this nice evening
[23:49] dora battery: nite tom
[23:49] Linda McAllister passes the Rollo to Grim
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: To answe Shai's earlier Q
[23:49] Elieluen Yareah: want to hear my new idea?
[23:49] Sakai Openlife: Yes -> Windows first
[23:50] Sakai Openlife: (gotta start with the one most of us use)
[23:50] Shai Khalifa: got my Macbook pro set up all ready and waiting
[23:50] Grimley Graves: inverse kinematics = reactions between colliding objects?
[23:50] Dell Battery: is there going to be any further development with this current version like rewards system? or will you put all your efforts into the new version ?
[23:50] Shai Khalifa: you mean the one YOU use
[23:50] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[23:50] Sakai Openlife: hehe we have a mac
[23:50] Sakai Openlife: (and many more PC's)
[23:50] Elieluen Yareah: 10 pcs = half a mac
[23:50] Sakai Openlife: yes
[23:50] Sakai Openlife: development
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: is still continuing on the present world
[23:51] Klee Openlife: vista runs great on macs :)
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: including that rewards system
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: it's been a slow process there
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: because unfortunately it takes legal
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: effort
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: to make it happen
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: (much more than technical effort)
[23:51] Maggie Moonbeam: rewards system? pulling money back out?
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: yes
[23:51] Clay Duport: damn lawyers
[23:51] Maggie Moonbeam: k
[23:51] Sakai Openlife: accounting and legal
[23:51] Shai Khalifa: yeah that's been the hiccup with a lot of the money issues so far eh?
[23:51] Elieluen Yareah: what's a lawyer?
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: We must be sure that we do it right...
[23:52] Maggie Moonbeam: dont get me started on lawyers... lol
[23:52] Pantaiputih Korobase: n oidea, eli
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: (addressing legal matters and accounting matters)
[23:52] Lion Ewry: Why are there legal things? How do people like EBAy do it?
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: before we can do so
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: remembering that we are not a US company
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: we are Taiwanese company
[23:52] Sakai Openlife: and 99.999% of our users are not Taiwanese
[23:53] Elieluen Yareah: which means you are subject to chinese law?
[23:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: we can move if its needed, lol
[23:53] Clay Duport: who is the missing one
[23:53] Maggie Moonbeam: There are strict international laws regarding transfer of money.. due to the current world problems with terroism.
[23:53] Sakai Openlife: (taiwan is not china)
[23:53] Shai Khalifa: gotta love international and national law stuff
[23:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: not yet, Sakai LOL
[23:53] Lion Ewry: Funneling through PayPal does not negate these things?
[23:53] Clay Duport: china wahts it though
[23:53] Elieluen Yareah: it's not?
[23:53] Sakai Openlife: well it can make things happen
[23:53] Clay Duport: wants
[23:53] Shai Khalifa: no it doesn't Lion
[23:53] Elieluen Yareah: i thought they already had it?
[23:53] Dell Battery: i think a lot of people are waiting to see that happen it would be nice to see that being trialed here before the new platform opens (gets the bugs out 1st)
[23:53] Maggie Moonbeam: THat I do have knowlege in.
[23:53] Sakai Openlife: but no one wants to get slugged some big tbill from the govt later on
[23:53] Pantaiputih Korobase: btu they lost is once again, Eli
[23:53] Sakai Openlife: or find we've been bad
[23:54] Elieluen Yareah: oh i c
[23:54] Maggie Moonbeam: yes, better safe than sorry
[23:54] Sakai Openlife: So we just want it to be right
[23:54] Maggie Moonbeam: A huge fine, will trickle down into higher fees
[23:54] Sakai Openlife: well it would hurt all of us
[23:54] Clay Duport: or worse like shut down
[23:54] Sakai Openlife: we're not a billion dollar microsoft
[23:54] Maggie Moonbeam: yes
[23:54] Elieluen Yareah: but will be one day
[23:54] Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, sounds reasonable, but for some, there is a demand to be able to put money out of the system
[23:55] Sakai Openlife: for scenarios where you have excessive qty of credits
[23:55] Sakai Openlife: (you are making a lot)
[23:55] Shai Khalifa: we're with you Sakai, just sometimes sound a bit impatient, but all it takes is a bit of an explanation and we all happy
[23:55] Sakai Openlife: we can already cater to you
[23:55] Sakai Openlife: and you should contact us
[23:55] Grimley Graves: any thought on moving operations to a "friendlier" area?
[23:55] Elieluen Yareah: yah i agree with pants...i think it is an obstacle for people who are considering leaving SL
[23:55] Dell Battery: oh crap they all tell me your bill gates in real life i've been misslead :((
[23:55] Sakai Openlife: Honestly here is pretty friednly
[23:55] Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, I sell stuff (about two items each three months), LOL
[23:55] Grimley Graves: but with China looming...
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: Taiwan has very strong trade relationships with most countries
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: (we make your notebooks when china isn't)
[23:56] Elieluen Yareah: my ruler comes from taiwan
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: China Taiwan
[23:56] Maggie Moonbeam: Hey, I had 9 sales yesterday.. my first high volume day.
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: is actually pretty friendly too
[23:56] Pantaiputih Korobase: wow, maggie!
[23:56] Elieluen Yareah: woot! congrats maggie
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: (even if it reads differently overseas)
[23:56] Clay Duport: just keep the lead out of it
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: we all like eachother
[23:56] Sakai Openlife: and actually there's alot of new relationships between the 2 countries
[23:57] Maggie Moonbeam: cool
[23:57] Shai Khalifa: yeah, it's all a bit political/media beat - trade will determine all
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: if anything
[23:57] Pantaiputih Korobase: the point is, for some, OL is fun and entertainment, others plan to do business, both parties should be happy with the platform
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: it's the fact we get along so well
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: (the 2 countries)
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: that concerns some
[23:57] Clay Duport: if government would leave people alone we might have it a lot better :)
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: that it's moving 'fast'
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: (but enough politics)
[23:57] Sakai Openlife: it's good here
[23:57] Clay Duport: lol
[23:57] Pantaiputih Korobase: noodle soup!
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: no not anymore
[23:58] Linda McAllister: sakai for president? ;)
[23:58] Shai Khalifa makes a note to do some research and learning on Taiwan/China - I don't know nearly enough
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: a mouse ate my noodles yesterday
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: :P
[23:58] Shai Khalifa: and I've been to Taiwan
[23:58] Maggie Moonbeam: If the ploticians are not trying to dig into our pockets, they are trying to keep us from being "too" friendly.. oy
[23:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: ooo poor sakai
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: (i was annoyed) he ate right through the packet
[23:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[23:58] Maggie Moonbeam: get a cat
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: i have!
[23:58] Elieluen Yareah: did they mouse have gold locks?
[23:58] Linda McAllister: the poor mouse was hungry!
[23:58] Sakai Openlife: (but at home)
[23:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: they at them, LOL
[23:58] Pantaiputih Korobase: eat
[23:58] Maggie Moonbeam: female, unfixed is best mouser
[23:59] Cheops Forlife: better ten to eat the wires of your servers!
[23:59] Shai Khalifa: stick it in a prim Maggie and drop it on Sakai's profile
[23:59] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[23:59] Cheops Forlife: than*
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: hehe definately no mice where the servers are
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: (US)
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: datacentre
[23:59] Pantaiputih Korobase: aah rats then
[23:59] dora battery: lol eat the noodles b4 the mous e
[23:59] Linda McAllister: cloudy?
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: haha
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: ur probably right
[23:59] Shai Khalifa: agree Pants
[23:59] Sakai Openlife: any other Q's?
[0:00] Sakai Openlife: before we wrap up for coffee and biscuits?
[0:00] Shai Khalifa: brainfried
[0:00] Linda McAllister: wrap up for bed
[0:00] Lion Ewry: Me too Shai
[0:00] Shai Khalifa: oh, the other one I asked Sakai
[0:00] Elieluen Yareah: i have an idea i'd like to suggest
[0:00] dora battery: yes here too lol
[0:00] Grimley Graves: Lin had a Q earlier
[0:00] Sakai Openlife: sure
[0:00] Elieluen Yareah: well my idea for a new region type is a space region (as in stars) or even make the gris into a planet etc
[0:00] Shai Khalifa: in the test platform, will we each have our own area to p lay with?
[0:00] Linda McAllister: nvm grim
[0:00] Dell Battery: can you tell me how many regions we have in OL i was asked yesterday but i had no idea ?
[0:00] Maggie Moonbeam: I have a question.. but not about servers.... I think.
[0:00] Sakai Openlife: about 409 ?
[0:00] Sakai Openlife: i think...
[0:01] Pantaiputih Korobase: all paid?
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: ni idea
[0:01] Pantaiputih Korobase: :-))
[0:01] Dell Battery: lol
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: i just remember seeing that number
[0:01] dora battery: lol pants
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: about a week or two back
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: planet concept
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: we have also been thinking about this
[0:01] Linda McAllister: okay..waht about bio and search...and picks?
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: and i think we have something close
[0:01] Elieluen Yareah: yah it would look awesome in the map i think
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: but
[0:01] Sakai Openlife: I really can't talk about that one
[0:01] Lion Ewry: And Support
[0:02] Elieluen Yareah: :)
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: there is a bomb (good bombshell)
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: in the new platform
[0:02] Elieluen Yareah: glad you are already thinking about it
[0:02] Dell Battery: mine still says 24th dec should be 24th feb lol can i be your accountant ???
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: that we really won't mention
[0:02] Linda McAllister: wich Q ??
[0:02] Pantaiputih Korobase: any plans to restore mainland in the near future?
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: until we let ppl start to play
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: somethings need to be a surprise
[0:02] Maggie Moonbeam: what do you do when you can not register... there is not forthcoming email verification code sent?
[0:02] Sakai Openlife: will you have an area to play with
[0:02] Lion Ewry: Is anyone managing support?
[0:02] Clay Duport: well hurry up and suprises us
[0:02] Shai Khalifa: you're a bugger Sakai - now I'll be on itchy feet till I get there
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: at some point yes
[0:03] Pantaiputih Korobase: supp waht? lion?
[0:03] Elieluen Yareah: rofl
[0:03] Lion Ewry: LOL
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: support has moved
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: to Contact us Page
[0:03] Pantaiputih Korobase: to?
[0:03] Elieluen Yareah: yah it's on the contact page
[0:03] Grimley Graves: probably a big sandbox to start
[0:03] Pantaiputih Korobase: aah
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: (this is much easier to manage)
[0:03] Linda McAllister: grrr sandbox again
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: the verification thing
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: we're always working on through issues there
[0:03] Lion Ewry: Ok
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: it usually takes about 5 days
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: (up to)
[0:03] Sakai Openlife: if the auitomation didn't work
[0:04] Sakai Openlife: (just being honest here)
[0:04] Maggie Moonbeam: 4 friends and myself have not bee able to get the code... 2 weeks later still no code.
[0:04] Sakai Openlife: reason is because no email?
[0:04] Maggie Moonbeam: opened new email addy for it.
[0:04] Sakai Openlife: is it yahoo?
[0:04] Elieluen Yareah: code?
[0:04] Maggie Moonbeam: hotmail
[0:04] Sakai Openlife: mmm
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: what will happen
[0:05] Maggie Moonbeam: is there a restrictore to my IP? only one account?
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: is when we get to your support request
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: we'll send you another email
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: (manually)
[0:05] Maggie Moonbeam: ok
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: no code
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: you'll be asked to reply
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: if you reply we'll activate the account
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: without verification
[0:05] Dawny Openlife: (we do have alot of sign ups lately)
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: (this is the same for all cases)
[0:05] Maggie Moonbeam: will put in ticket.. that would help... lol
[0:05] Sakai Openlife: yes there is ALOT of new users lately
[0:06] Linda McAllister: do they stay?
[0:06] Shai Khalifa: noticed that
[0:06] Grimley Graves: some do
[0:06] Sakai Openlife: i think that depdnds on who they meet
[0:06] Sakai Openlife: lol
[0:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: I send them all to Eli
[0:06] Maggie Moonbeam: I have had up to 3 new usuers a day
[0:06] Shai Khalifa: friend of mine has moved across and she was innundated with noobs yesterday
[0:06] Elieluen Yareah: yah and i give them all herpies
[0:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: lol
[0:06] Maggie Moonbeam: lol
[0:06] Linda McAllister: they dont see green dots on the map!
[0:06] Shai Khalifa: lol Eli
[0:06] Sakai Openlife: yeah green dots...
[0:06] Maggie Moonbeam: I send them to dawn at LC
[0:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: good point, the map!
[0:06] Elieluen Yareah: green dots...sounds like gangreen to me
[0:06] Linda McAllister: no dots...then its dead :S
[0:06] Pantaiputih Korobase: s L O w
[0:06] Sakai Openlife: i think u can notice
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: even now
[0:07] Shai Khalifa: I just get IMs from p eople asking me stuff to answer their noob aquaintences
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: the map doesn't show as many dots
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: as there are ppl here
[0:07] Pantaiputih Korobase: rofl, eli
[0:07] Pantaiputih Korobase: so, pls adjust the map, sakai
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: in fact if you zoom out
[0:07] Linda McAllister: well...fix it :P
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: we all look like 1 dot
[0:07] Grimley Graves: true, but is that being worked on?
[0:07] Shai Khalifa: map also doesn't show regions other than those right hard up against mainland either
[0:07] Linda McAllister hands sakia green paint :)
[0:07] Lion Ewry: Can you put the number of people online sakaI?
[0:07] Shai Khalifa: or the green dots on them
[0:07] Pantaiputih Korobase: the map is awfully slow, i.e. delayed
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: we might do the online thing
[0:07] Lion Ewry: People think the place is dead
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: the dots...
[0:07] Sakai Openlife: mmm
[0:07] Linda McAllister: would help!
[0:08] Sakai Openlife: I won't say anything other than we've looked at it
[0:08] Sakai Openlife: and we'll look again
[0:08] Maggie Moonbeam: ok
[0:08] Shai Khalifa: being able to see all regions would help
[0:08] Lion Ewry: Number of people in total and online now
[0:08] Shai Khalifa: without having to click around on areas to get them to show in
[0:08] Grimley Graves: speeding their appearance would help alot
[0:08] Elieluen Yareah: i'd love to see the mainland continent all up again
[0:08] Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, Shai
[0:08] Linda McAllister: yea, and MoTD...and best build of the month
[0:08] Sakai Openlife: (number online right now is 59)
[0:08] Pantaiputih Korobase: and yes, Eli
[0:08] Grimley Graves: maybe put them first on the list of things that load?
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: Perhaps
[0:09] Elieluen Yareah: a lot of newbies think there isn't a contninent justa few disparate sims
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: we could put this kind of thing
[0:09] Lion Ewry: Well that is what they want to know
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: on the search page
[0:09] Grimley Graves: then region graphics
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: this is also where events are going
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: (omg) i forgot to mention events
[0:09] Pantaiputih Korobase: and people search for gren dots, so current dots would be nice
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: events will come back
[0:09] Linda McAllister: need more coffee? :P
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: and they will list on the search page
[0:09] Shai Khalifa: AND ALL REGIONS........
[0:09] Sakai Openlife: (on the right hand side)
[0:09] Lion Ewry: TP from Search?
[0:10] Linda McAllister: yea, we need a taxi!
[0:10] Sakai Openlife: not at least without the update this week
[0:10] Sakai Openlife: (meaning we will try again after this update) because it includes things we need
[0:10] Sakai Openlife: to make it happen
[0:10] Shai Khalifa: I want to be able to move the map over to where I know P & Z are and actually see them on the map, along with Sandalwood and Papyrus - and all the other surrounding regions
[0:11] Linda McAllister: I need to go to sleep, thanks for the meeting, and see ya all later, night night
[0:11] Elieluen Yareah: thinking about it though....a lot of this stuff i'm prepared to go without so you can concentrate ont eh new platform instead
[0:11] Grimley Graves: also, can we expect to have these meetups regularly again?
[0:11] Shai Khalifa: not have to click the map to get them to show
[0:11] Elieluen Yareah: bye linda
[0:11] Dawny Openlife: sweet dreams
[0:11] Pantaiputih Korobase: nn linda
[0:11] Shai Khalifa: night Linda
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: yes
[0:11] Surreal Numbers: bye linda
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: I'll schedule the next either next week
[0:11] Maggie Moonbeam: g'n linda
[0:11] Cheops Forlife: night Linda!
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: or the following
[0:11] Linda McAllister: see ya soon Grim
[0:11] Clay Duport: nite linda
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: (liekly every 2nd)
[0:11] Grimley Graves: nite Linda...huggs and kisses
[0:11] Linda McAllister: nite! *waves*
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: thanks guys
[0:11] Linda McAllister: huggg and kisss
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: cya
[0:11] Sakai Openlife: and from me, also time to wrap up
[0:12] Sakai Openlife: we have a lot do switch and do today
[0:12] Sakai Openlife: while you sleep
[0:12] Shai Khalifa: yeah, I missed brekkie, now need lunch
[0:12] Cheops Forlife: night Grim
[0:12] Pantaiputih Korobase: thanks for your time and honest answers and visions, Sakai
[0:12] Sakai Openlife: (or lunch(
[0:12] Sakai Openlife: pleasure
[0:12] Sakai Openlife: look forward to seeing you all again really soon
[0:12] Surreal Numbers: take care sakai
[0:12] Lion Ewry: Thanks Sakai
[0:12] Chenoa Senyurt: Very informative. Thanks.
[0:12] Maggie Moonbeam: Have to go.. rl family is demanding my attention. TY for info Sakai,
[0:12] Elieluen Yareah: yups...great meeting
[0:12] Grimley Graves: the meetups really help with our moral :)
[0:12] Surreal Numbers: bye maggie
[0:12] Dell Battery: thanks for the meeting byee
[0:12] Elieluen Yareah: leave these new av pics up for a hile so we can salivate
[0:13] Shai Khalifa: lol
[0:13] Cheops Forlife: bye Maggie
[0:13] Shai Khalifa: cya Maggie
[0:13] Grimley Graves: ok, gotta go feed my beasts, good seeing you all
[0:13] Lion Ewry: See you all soon
[0:13] Pantaiputih Korobase: so, where is the aftermath party?
[0:13] Trista sohl: thank you, Sakai ....
[0:13] Elieluen Yareah: cya grim
[0:13] Lion Ewry: Bye for now
[0:13] Surreal Numbers: take care grims.
[0:13] Lion Ewry: Thanks Sakai
[0:13] Shai Khalifa: cya Grim
[0:13] Shai Khalifa: Aftermath on VL on 20 Feb
[0:13] Chenoa Senyurt: Bye Grim
[0:13] Cheops Forlife: bye Sakai
[0:14] Pantaiputih Korobase: yessssssss, Shai :-))
[0:14] Grimley Graves: thanks for the dance Chen ;)
[0:14] Chenoa Senyurt: Thank you! : )
[0:14] Pantaiputih Korobase: read back if you want on openlifechat.ning
[0:14] Cheops Forlife: you could save it all Pant?
[0:15] Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, I was busy :-)) will be two or three parts, hehe
[0:15] Elieluen Yareah: so we had the 2nd meeting right?
[0:15] Sakai Openlife: yup
[0:15] Sakai Openlife: that was both
[0:15] Elieluen Yareah: ok wasn't sure
(Thanks to Pants for providing the chat log for this meeting)
