Inworld 3DX meeting - 04 May 2011

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[22:01]  Grimley Graves: we need more chairs LOL

[22:01]  Sakai Openlife: hi Grim

[22:01]  Randall Rascal: and nope im no aussie

[22:01]  Sakai Openlife: hi Cheops

[22:01]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:01]  Traillie Ponnier: hi everyone

[22:01]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hi X

[22:01]  Surreal Numbers: hi Traillie

[22:01]  Pantaiputih Korobase: omg, violet!

[22:01]  Sakai Openlife: hi X

[22:01]  Sakai Openlife: hey violet!

[22:01]  Xtaci Pile: so weres sakai?

[22:01]  Surreal Numbers: hi Violet!

[22:01]  Cheops Forlife: hi Violet

[22:01]  Surreal Numbers: hey x

[22:02]  Pantaiputih Korobase: on the couch

[22:02]  Maxx Qarnac: Hello everyone

[22:02]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hi Maxx

[22:02]  Traillie Ponnier: hi

[22:02]  Violet Indigo: Hi everyone.

[22:02]  Grimley Graves: right next to you X

[22:02]  Grimley Graves: lol

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: hi Maxx

[22:02]  Surreal Numbers: hi maxx and eve

[22:02]  Xtaci Pile: :O

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: hi Eve

[22:02]  Xtaci Pile: oh

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: mm

[22:02]  Eve Express: hi

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: out of seats again

[22:02]  Cheops Forlife: hi X

[22:02]  Grimley Graves: yep

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: you can have mine

[22:02]  Xtaci Pile: lol he was so short i looked ocer em

[22:02]  Grimley Graves: I'm air sitting

[22:02]  Pantaiputih Korobase: Grims on first floor

[22:02]  Sakai Openlife: I'll have to go shopping for some more couches after this

[22:02]  Randall Rascal: hi violet sur eve cheops pants sakai grim

[22:03]  Randall Rascal: and xiaci

[22:03]  Randall Rascal: xtaci

[22:03]  Cheops Forlife: you'll find these ones for free at Danaus lol

[22:03]  Xtaci Pile: yeah?

[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: these couches?

[22:03]  Cheops Forlife: sure!

[22:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: but you need to shop still, Cheops .-9

[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: lol (I think i bought them)

[22:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: for C0 lol

[22:04]  Cheops Forlife: Kyle lest them for th ecommunity

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: a long time ago

[22:04]  Cheops Forlife: Kylie*

[22:04]  Surreal Numbers: yes Kylie Baroque made these chairs

[22:04]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hi Kaarle

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: a couple hundred c each?

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: (if i remember right)

[22:04]  Cheops Forlife: she had to eat at that time! lol

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: so this weeks has been busy with updates

[22:04]  Cheops Forlife: hi Kaarle

[22:04]  Grimley Graves: yes, saw that

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: hi Kaarle

[22:04]  Surreal Numbers: hi Kaarle

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: we've been rolling them out like a machine gun!

[22:04]  Kaarle Mukane: Hi everybody

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: I can say we've been pretty happy with them no major issues

[22:05]  Grimley Graves: group chat is working, with certain issues

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: and the updates have gone quite smoothly with as little impact on everyone as possible

[22:05]  Surreal Numbers: there are two open sit balls. have a seat Kaarle

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: If you've seen a few of the notices

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: you might notice the Sat notice

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: which basically wraps it allup

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: and re-enables new users

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: into your groups

[22:06]  Grimley Graves: group notices? or forum posts?

[22:06]  Randall Rascal: havent seen any notices only noticed every morning i woke up with me being offline lol

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: (notices in the forum)

[22:06]  Pantaiputih Korobase: you shut down your computer, Randy?

[22:06]  Randall Rascal: nope

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: http://openlifegrid.com/Forums/tabid/323/afv/topicsview/aff/24/Default.aspx

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: you can see all our updates notices in that forum section

[22:07]  Grimley Graves: ok, saw those :)

[22:07]  Randall Rascal: region likes to shut down on its own with 1 whole minuts notice :)

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: we always post in advance

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: and regular post during update

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: so you can know when to expect a kick for a restart on new code

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: logins are still open during update

[22:08]  Eve Express: thats why all the restarts

[22:08]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: because the world doesn't (close down)

[22:08]  Eve Express: i see

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: basically regions live in the cloud

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: and what happens

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: is we upload new code

[22:08]  Randall Rascal: i did write a few funky things down for ya tho

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: and the region will shutdown and be started up on the new code

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: so it's all pretty quick

[22:09]  Randall Rascal: i hope i can still read since im drinking whiskey/coke

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: So this weeks meet

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: I wanted to go over what we did and what is still coming

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: in the updates

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: the new premuum user details

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: (I have them now)

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: and some new features we want to roll into the web

[22:10]  Pantaiputih Korobase: search?

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: So first this weeks updates complete something close to 95% of groups

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: with the last 5% being accounting something we aren't implementing

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: *Openlife doesn't have a 'tier' with land size

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: attached to your account

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: so we don't have contributing tiers

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: so that function will not come

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: (it doesn't fit with how our land pricing works)

[22:11]  Cheops Forlife: ok

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: and we won't do group accounting

[22:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: dont understand it anyway, so no problem, hahaha

[22:11]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: we will however implement grou voting

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: (group voting)

[22:12]  Randall Rascal: i like the 70 bucks flat fee i have now

[22:12]  Eve Express: so, what would be the benefits of a paying member?

[22:12]  Cheops Forlife: this you understand Pant?

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: so premium users

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: let me grab the sheet

[22:12]  Pantaiputih Korobase: may be later, cheops, lol

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: and i can read and type it

[22:12]  Cheops Forlife: ok we mute

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: ok the premium user benefits

[22:13]  Surreal Numbers: question about group chat. in order to be aware group chat is taking place you have to either wear that specific group tag or open the group from profile. will this be enhanced so that you'll be aware of group chat without those two constraints?

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: good Q

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: It's in my discussion nots

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: notes

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: so I'll get to it a little later

[22:14]  Surreal Numbers: kk

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Premium Users will get:

[22:14]  Maxx Qarnac: i think it should perhaps be an option

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Up to 1020 free uploads a year (85 per month allowance)

[22:14]  Maxx Qarnac: ...by group

[22:14]  Eve Express: yay!!!!!!

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Up to 10 Alts in your account

[22:14]  Eve Express: yeah!!!!

[22:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, 4 more then :-)

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Weekly credits allowance automatically added to your account of 150 credits

[22:14]  Maxx Qarnac: lol

[22:14]  Eve Express: yeah!!!!

[22:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, 4 more then :-)

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Weekly credits allowance automatically added to your account of 150 credits

[22:14]  Maxx Qarnac: lol

[22:14]  Grimley Graves: hi Shai

[22:14]  Surreal Numbers: good morning shai

[22:14]  Cheops Forlife: hi Shai

[22:14]  Eve Express: yeah!!!!

[22:14]  Kaarle Mukane: hi Shai

[22:14]  Shai Khalifa: morning - sory I'm late

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: - Access to the Credits Reverse facility (Credits to USD on credits earned in Openlife) *Additional Terms & Conditions & payout limits apply. A valid verified paypal account is also required to use this service.

[22:14]  Eve Express: hi Shai

[22:14]  Xtaci Pile: you should make it so they can use 2 alts at the same time ;P

[22:14]  Maxx Qarnac: greetings

[22:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: weekly 150 C???????

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: - Ability to restrict owned regions’ access to premium ‘only’ users.

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: - Access to premium user only enhanced web functions and features.

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: Price: $8.25 a month paid as a yearly membership of $99

[22:15]  Eve Express: how do you become a permimum member?

[22:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: sign up and have a PayPal account I heard

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: Release Date: Saturday 28th May

[22:15]  Eve Express: ok, those of us with sims now

[22:15]  Randall Rascal: hey shai

[22:15]  Eve Express: do we loose them if we aren't premium?

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: so those are the basic details of what we'll be offering in the premium user package

[22:16]  Grimley Graves: nope

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: being premium is entirely your choice

[22:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: no one will lose a sim

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: you don't need to be premium to own land

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: and you don't need to own land to be premium

[22:16]  Randall Rascal: hold it one moment my glass is empty

[22:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:16]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:16]  Xtaci Pile: lol

[22:16]  Maxx Qarnac: rofl

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: so this basically is an enhancement to your openlife experience

[22:16]  Surreal Numbers: (he needs a taller glass :P )

[22:17]  Shai Khalifa: kettke just boiled for me

[22:17]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:17]  Shai Khalifa: I'll read back when I have tea in front of me

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: a little over half of the fee you're getting back in credits

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: over the year

[22:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 52$

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: *Always nice to get some pocket change every week

[22:18]  Eve Express: i like it

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: With the package releasing in 2 weeks (approx)

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: on the 28th

[22:18]  Randall Rascal: sorry im back

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: It will be easy and simple

[22:18]  Grimley Graves gave you May 5th chatlog so far.

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: with a premium page on the web

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: to omplete

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: complete

[22:18]  Pantaiputih Korobase: can I get a premium tattoo?

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: for the astute you might notice there is a difference between

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: credits reverse release date

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: and the prem date

[22:19]  Shai Khalifa: do we get a marker in our profile if Premium?

[22:19]  Eve Express: how do we pay and do our alts need to be premium

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: so

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: from release to the end of Jun

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: June

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: we'll be adding an extra month free

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: to prem user memberships

[22:19]  Eve Express: cool

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: to kick it off :)

[22:20]  Shai Khalifa: coolies

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: so to get premium

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: on the 28th

[22:20]  Randall Rascal: whats the cost?

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: there'll be an Upgrade to premium option

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: in the Hub

[22:20]  Shai Khalifa: 99US a year

[22:20]  Eve Express: ok

[22:20]  Randall Rascal: okay

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: and you just click that and pay

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: and you're in

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: your account will upgrade automatically

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: and your credits package will deliver each wekk

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: for uploads part

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: if you are logged in when you upgrade

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: you need to log out again

[22:21]  Eve Express: ok

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: before and log in

[22:21]  Cheops Forlife: is it cumulative? I mean if not all used one moth is it on then next month?

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: *so the system can recognise your new status on login

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: it's up to 85 per month

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: they don't carry over

[22:22]  Maxx Qarnac: :-)

[22:22]  Pantaiputih Korobase: so, cheops, we need to find 85 uploads each month :-))

[22:22]  Grimley Graves: hope that wont clog the system

[22:22]  Eve Express: ok

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: *this is pruposely done do avoid flood

[22:22]  Eve Express: hold on

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: (purposely)

[22:22]  Grimley Graves: thats a lot of textures to handle

[22:22]  Eve Express: lets say i have 50c

[22:23]  Eve Express: i loose 50 c every week?

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: but handy so that you can always use things like snapshots etc whenever you like

[22:23]  Eve Express: ok

[22:23]  Eve Express: uploads

[22:23]  Pantaiputih Korobase: Cheops invent will gorw by 1000+ uploads a year, pls think about the consequences when she opens it...................

[22:23]  Eve Express: sorry

[22:23]  Surreal Numbers: will a running upload count be available on the web in the hub?

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: you can view your upload quota on the web

[22:23]  Surreal Numbers: k

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: We'll actually be adding a special 'premium user tab'

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: in the site

[22:23]  Shai Khalifa: lol Pants

[22:23]  Cheops Forlife: yeah poor inv lol

[22:23]  Pantaiputih Korobase: :-)

[22:24]  Shai Khalifa: and so she opens it just to show us?

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: each time, Shai

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: Because there's a bunch of things we'll be adding in

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: to premium user accounts

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: *As an example

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: if you've played with group chat

[22:24]  Randall Rascal: free car rental

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: in the last 24hrs

[22:24]  Shai Khalifa: yeah we did last night our time

[22:24]  Grimley Graves: yes we have :)

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: working borader crossing only fir premium :-))))

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: you might have noticed that when you join

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: a session

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: everyone else know

[22:25]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: you joined

[22:25]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: *A helpful little message goes to everyone

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: and when you leave too

[22:25]  Cheops Forlife: yes I did

[22:25]  Shai Khalifa: yeah saw that

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: however premium users have extra controls

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: if you are premium

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: and own a group

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: you can set the welcome message

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: to the new user

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: when they join the session

[22:25]  Shai Khalifa: oh coolies

[22:26]  Cheops Forlife: ah yes!

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: and customize the message

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: for when ppl join and leave

[22:26]  Pantaiputih Korobase: saves a lot of typing

[22:26]  Surreal Numbers: like "Oh, it's Surreal again"

[22:26]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lollllllllllll

[22:26]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:26]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: you can also choose to tell the new user how many ppl are in the chat session

[22:26]  Grimley Graves: Like "SHH Grims here"

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: so we've optioned it up a bit :)

[22:26]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ahahah

[22:26]  Cheops Forlife: does it say welcome back automatically too? lol

[22:26]  Surreal Numbers: reminds me i have a link for grims...

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: so these are options

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: that will be available

[22:27]  Xtaci Pile whisels

[22:27]  Surreal Numbers: http://dailydead.com/build-your-own-zombie-proof-house/

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: on the web

[22:27]  Randall Rascal: would be nice if it said bye to the person who left aswell :)

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: for premium users

[22:27]  Xtaci Pile shouts: lol

[22:27]  Cheops Forlife: it will!

[22:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, if the person left, its too laten Randy

[22:27]  Shai Khalifa: wb Maxx

[22:27]  Xtaci Pile: lol

[22:27]  Maxx Qarnac: mumbles something obscene about his isp

[22:27]  Surreal Numbers: wb

[22:27]  Maxx Qarnac: thanks :-)

[22:27]  Cheops Forlife: you can customise the left message too

[22:27]  Randall Rascal: lol as a personal message pants lol

[22:27]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, you sure it's not Telstra?

[22:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: finally PAnts os goen

[22:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: gone*

[22:28]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: We also hope to introduce further settings for preium users

[22:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: (nned to change my group tag)

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: re your profile

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: (on the web)

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: *so there's a difference between basic and prem users

[22:29]  Shai Khalifa: can we Invite New Members to groups yet? couldn't last night

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: *something we haven't completed but had a poke into was

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: prem group chat via web

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: so we have some good ideas to extend things

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: and over time

[22:29]  Pantaiputih Korobase: omg, the elite exchanges secrets.............

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: we'll keep adding more and more things into the premium services

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: it's not a lot we've tried to keep it as affordable as possible

[22:30]  Pantaiputih Korobase: stipend is nice and uploads too

[22:30]  Shai Khalifa: hehe - best thing I like is Prems get first hands on NxG

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: and we hope that everyone can find some good benefits :)

[22:30]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cash out also for some

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: *And yes > prem will get first shots at nxg

[22:30]  Eve Express: NxG?

[22:30]  Grimley Graves: stipends and uploads can pretty much pay for the premium

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: when we reach a closed testing beta

[22:31]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yep, Grims

[22:31]  Shai Khalifa: Next gen platform when it's ready for alpha testing

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: (for the nxg > next platform)

[22:31]  Eve Express: ah

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: Some other news for the week

[22:31]  Surreal Numbers: (it isn't currently possible (for me anyway) to leave a group. will this be possible in the future?)

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: we have started kicking off a new viewer

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: Klee is on the case for this

[22:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: only premum can leave groups, Surr (kidding)

[22:32]  Cheops Forlife: great!

[22:32]  Eve Express fears for her inventory when you roll out the next platform

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: so we expect in the next month or 2 we'll see a new viewer

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: for Openlife

[22:32]  Surreal Numbers: lol pants. sigh

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: that will include shadows

[22:32]  Shai Khalifa: ahhhh, good old R17 has been such a good viewer

[22:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: do shadows eat ressources?

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: and a good bunch of other new features

[22:32]  Randall Rascal: okay maybe ill wait with my new laptop order lol

[22:32]  Grimley Graves: hopefully we can keep using 17

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: well

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: part of the new viewer release

[22:32]  Shai Khalifa: and will there be the option of R17 for those who may experience issues for a start?

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: will be new layers

[22:33]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I am ell used to R17 and it runs well to me

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: for avatars

[22:33]  Kaarle Mukane: And correct alphasorting?

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: so a tattoo layer

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: and things like this

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: it also includes boob, bum and belly physics

[22:33]  Maxx Qarnac: nice

[22:33]  Eve Express: new layers!!! yeah!!!

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: (BBB Physics)

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: more fun for chothing makers

[22:33]  Surreal Numbers: i know clothing makers (pauline has mentioned the value of avatar layers) will like that

[22:33]  Randall Rascal: how bout prims that just do what i want them to :)

[22:33]  Grimley Graves: /facepalm

[22:33]  Violet Indigo: we'll be able to use an alpha layer instead of invisprims?

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: hehe bouncy boobs?

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: so we're working through it

[22:34]  Maxx Qarnac: i meant nice at the new layers, not at the boobs and bums, (blush)

[22:34]  Traillie Ponnier: alpha layer?

[22:34]  Eve Express looks down at her boobs

[22:34]  Maxx Qarnac: hehe

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: but some of the new changes in avatar

[22:34]  Violet Indigo: OH no - I hate the bouncing bits

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: will mean the new viewer and old viewer are not entirely compatible with each other

[22:34]  Pantaiputih Korobase: brain to prim is not yet implemented, Randall

[22:34]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, they're painful in RL as it is

[22:34]  Traillie Ponnier: lol Violet

[22:34]  Violet Indigo: Exactly!

[22:34]  Shai Khalifa: hehe Pants

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: *users in current viewer cannot see new viewer avatars

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: but can login

[22:35]  Randall Rascal: lol \\\\\\\\\\to bad wold be very handy :)

[22:35]  Kaarle Mukane: No alpha layer, sorting, Alpha texture messes many things without that

[22:35]  Randall Rascal: hikup

[22:35]  Pantaiputih Korobase: haha

[22:35]  Grimley Graves: as long as we can default back to 17 in case of problems

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: so that's my 'on the radar' part

[22:35]  Surreal Numbers: will there be a "bounce" slider in Appearance. I'm not sure jello as a default is a good idea. :P

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: of the meet

[22:35]  Shai Khalifa: hehe Sur

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: we're also looking to add

[22:35]  Eve Express: sakai, if you have NOT completrely redesigned the user interface you should be ok, if you have........i'll cry for you

[22:36]  Grimley Graves: lol Kaarle, SL cant even figure alpha out

[22:36]  Randall Rascal: im gonna make a beer belly once it starts bouning

[22:36]  Maxx Qarnac: lol

[22:36]  Randall Rascal: bouncing too

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: sharable windlight settings

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: *not forced windlight

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: but sharable

[22:36]  Grimley Graves: oooh, I like

[22:36]  Pantaiputih Korobase: so, what are the minimum requirements for the new viewer (and the optimum ones)?

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: *If a user shares windlight

[22:36]  Shai Khalifa stands and cheers for shared settings

[22:36]  Violet Indigo: Alpha clashing isn't an SL or OL issue

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: then an icon appears

[22:36]  Traillie Ponnier: :)

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: that let's you accept (apply) the windlight settings

[22:37]  Shai Khalifa: oh, talking about weather/day settings ...............

[22:37]  Pantaiputih Korobase: day cycle, lol

[22:37]  Shai Khalifa: day cycling???

[22:37]  Pantaiputih Korobase: DEAD

[22:37]  Grimley Graves: aww, you mean I wont be able to force the foggy gloom of nocturne on everyone?

[22:37]  Eve Express: weather?

[22:37]  Traillie Ponnier: they dont work

[22:37]  Eve Express: we will get rain?

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: so you won't be able to 'force' windlight

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: but that's because not everyone has the same pc

[22:37]  Pantaiputih Korobase: before rain, I would love to see sunset again

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: we thought it better to be 'option'

[22:37]  Shai Khalifa: weather=gloomy foggy

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: re: the day cycle item mentioned last week

[22:38]  Eve Express: rain and snow

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: there's non-group updates

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: in the beginning of next week

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: that will fix that

[22:38]  Shai Khalifa: we get weather in NxG Eve

[22:38]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, good

[22:38]  Eve Express: in the beginning Sakai created rain

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: There's also a friends update next week

[22:38]  Shai Khalifa: oh very cool, I've missed the days cycling through

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: basically the updates this week

[22:38]  Shai Khalifa: all this daylight is all very fine, but I miss evenings and those odd times

[22:39]  Randall Rascal: okay so for the day settings i gotta wait for nxg aswel?

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: is code we developed and tested last week

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: and next week is the stuff we did this week

[22:39]  Shai Khalifa: no, weather is in NxG - day cycling is in OL

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: yes not to be confused NXG / Openlfie quite different

[22:39]  Eve Express: will old viewer see layers?

[22:40]  Grimley Graves: totally different worlds

[22:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: no onen can even imagine NxG

[22:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: one*

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: *I imagine everyday

[22:40]  Randall Rascal: and i cant transfer my region to nxg? lol

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: haha

[22:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: haha

[22:40]  Grimley Graves: you have inside info Sakai :P

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: yes i do

[22:40]  Shai Khalifa: we'll get more on NxG further down the track Randall

[22:40]  Eve Express: hold on, can't transfer region to NXG?

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: not yet

[22:41]  Grimley Graves: you wont want to Randall, it's too different

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: to give an idea

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: *Side tracking again

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: nxg doesn't have regions

[22:41]  Shai Khalifa: I've got a whole lot on the OracL site in the chat logs from last year about NxG, so you can update if you read them

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: *this 256x256m boxes

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: that run things

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: it's a large seamless world

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: no borders

[22:42]  Pantaiputih Korobase: no borders is appreciated...................

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: so you could potentially sail a boat for about 8 hrs

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: non stop

[22:42]  Traillie Ponnier: wow

[22:42]  Eve Express: so, why move to nxg, if none of us can utilize it?

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: well you can utilize it

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: but not yet

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: it's not open for public testing yet

[22:42]  Eve Express: oh

[22:42]  Shai Khalifa: Eve if you read the logs, you'll see why NxG is very very tempting

[22:42]  Grimley Graves: not moving, it will be a seperate world

[22:42]  Randall Rascal: well then i think ol is gona be an empty place

[22:43]  Eve Express: ok

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: basically

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: when we get there

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: into public testing

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: outside of prem users

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: then you will automatically

[22:43]  Pantaiputih Korobase: we will be in both worlds, Randall, even better, lol

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: have an avatar

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: in NXG too

[22:43]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: and you can use both

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: parrallel for while

[22:43]  Eve Express: ok

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: until the community

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: (determined by you guys)

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: decides

[22:43]  Eve Express: how will this effect my inventory?

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: it's time to switch completely

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: so we're not going to force move

[22:44]  Randall Rascal: ahah okay i get it .. hikup

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: or anything like that

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: and clearly we're still delivering strongly into openlife

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: and developing and improving it

[22:44]  Shai Khalifa: I like to think of it as testing a new world without leaving OL at all

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: nxg is not going to come out next month

[22:44]  Grimley Graves: yeah, NXG is WAY off

[22:44]  Eve Express: ok

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: it's something we've been working on in parrallel to Openlife

[22:44]  Eve Express: gotcha

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: with the bulk of our time here

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa: and helping 3DX to really make us a virtual world worthy of 2015

[22:45]  Pantaiputih Korobase: beside daily life in the OL virtual world, will all functions be available in NxG immedinately, like groups etc

[22:45]  Grimley Graves: Sakai just likes to tease us every once in awhile with talk of it :P

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: we're taking things like groups to a whole new level

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: allowing you to make different scales

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: as an example you can make a 'circle'

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: that has say 40 friends

[22:46]  Randall Rascal: yyoull be able to 3d whoope some one out of the group instead of kicking them

[22:46]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, what I mean is is this all transferable to NxG what we build here in terms of social relationships or do we need to start from scratch with friendships, groups etc.?

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: but the circle an go up a level

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: to a community

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: so there can be many circles in a community

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: and there can be many communities in something larger

[22:47]  Shai Khalifa: my realm?

[22:47]  Pantaiputih Korobase: atm I have circles in my mind

[22:47]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: it's a scaling concept

[22:47]  Randall Rascal: lol you drink my whiskey pants?

[22:47]  Pantaiputih Korobase: noooooooooooo

[22:47]  Pantaiputih Korobase: nothing at all

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: I might seem mum a bit details

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: for nxg

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: and it's not that i don't want to talk about it

[22:47]  Randall Rascal: lol you dont know what your missing

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: it's that i don't want to confuse anyone

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: until we demonstrate it

[22:48]  Eve Express likes being unconfused

[22:48]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:48]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: but the easiest way to think of it is

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: 3DX is thinking about the future

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: and what we'll deliver next

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: and we want to be right up there

[22:48]  Xtaci Pile is Offline

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: hence we're already working on it

[22:49]  Maxx Qarnac: gets confused far too easily

[22:49]  Eve Express: lol

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: so to get back on track

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: the part that surreal mentioned earlier

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: about the group chat

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: we might need a few options

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: on the web to determine the behaviour

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: that is preferred

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: by group owners

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: re: incoming grou messages etc

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: so... that wraps up my buit

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: bit

[22:50]  Shai Khalifa: options are always good things

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: any Q's?

[22:51]  Cheops Forlife: /for eg, when you see a chat group starting and you are not interested or busy, how to not still receive the IMs?

[22:51]  Shai Khalifa: oh yes - when do we get our Online Friends and our Offline Messages back on The Hub?

[22:51]  Grimley Graves: I noticed this morning that group chat doesn't survive region to region TP's

[22:51]  Surreal Numbers: offline messages work on the hub.

[22:51]  Shai Khalifa: they do?

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: re: stopping the messages

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: you need to close the group chat window

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: inside the chat panel

[22:52]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, Shai, theys do

[22:52]  Violet Indigo: I got offlines from Grim teh other day

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: (not just the chat panel)

[22:52]  Grimley Graves: you can still see group chat, but not participate until you close and re-open the window

[22:52]  Surreal Numbers: if i understand your question, i think so. when i receive ims and i'm not online, the offline messages number changes.

[22:52]  Shai Khalifa: you get them inworld, but we had them on the web for ages and it was great

[22:52]  Shai Khalifa: not any more sadly

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: if you 'close

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: the group in the panel

[22:52]  Pantaiputih Korobase: of course, if you are not correctly logged out, Shai, you get nothing..........

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: it will exit your session

[22:52]  Randall Rascal: okay i have a few things

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: *and tell everyone you have left

[22:53]  Cheops Forlife: ok great

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: when will everyone wear hats

[22:53]  Surreal Numbers: (i can see offline messages in the hub when i'm not online)

[22:53]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:53]  Randall Rascal: gotd nothing to do with groups tho so ill wait

[22:53]  Randall Rascal: lol pants as of today please wityh glow on 40

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: re: offline im

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 40 kills

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: if the offline message number is 0

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: then you can't click it

[22:53]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: (because you have no messages)

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: if its 1+ >

[22:54]  Randall Rascal: nah works nice with a low shinnyness

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: then you can click and view

[22:54]  Shai Khalifa: ah ok, not tested it in the last week or so

[22:54]  Grimley Graves: yep, works for me

[22:54]  Cheops Forlife: this is what you should explain more in the website

[22:54]  Shai Khalifa: what about showing our online friends/friends list on web?

[22:54]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, about region detailed info, stilldoes not work to expand to get the info to me with IE, with firefox, it works

[22:54]  Randall Rascal: okay region question im sure i missed it but here comes .. i cant put sun settings or what so ever on my region lol

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: i can get onto that perhaps in the next week

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: ie atm i see 154(13)

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: indicating 13 friends are online

[22:55]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 3 friends and 7 alts

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: but you want to be able to click that right?

[22:55]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:55]  Pantaiputih Korobase: and 3 other friends

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: and see 'who' is online

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: we can do this

[22:55]  Shai Khalifa: yes, want to see who those people are

[22:55]  Shai Khalifa: and if possible, message them if I can

[22:56]  Shai Khalifa: so I can catch people if I"m at work

[22:56]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, wishing here

[22:56]  Cheops Forlife: and with th eright number? Beacuse sometimes I can see 29 online and only Surr and I are lolll

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: we can probably do something there at the same time as when we add the group invite to web

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, message without being in world was a topic a while ago

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, Cheops, Surr and you and your 27 alts

[22:56]  Surreal Numbers: i never see that cheops lol but i do see my total number of friends changes seemingly randomly.

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: LOL

[22:56]  Surreal Numbers: lol

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: or your inentory

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: yes we have the capability there now

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: for offline to in world messaging

[22:57]  Pantaiputih Korobase: listens

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: but it's not open to everyeone yet

[22:57]  Shai Khalifa: whoot

[22:57]  Cheops Forlife: wait I must have friends in my inv ....

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: because we only just installed the new IM system

[22:57]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Che

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: about 2 days ago

[22:57]  Shai Khalifa: I thought that was on your list when you changed over to the new management system

[22:57]  Eve Express: just out of curiosity, do we know what the population of ol is?

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: yeah it's a feature we will deliver

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: sure 72,000

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: give or take a few hundred

[22:57]  Eve Express: wow

[22:58]  Maxx Qarnac: nice

[22:58]  Grimley Graves: active population??

[22:58]  Eve Express: yes

[22:58]  Pantaiputih Korobase: much appreciated to have the ability to message back even if not inworld, esp for event organizers

[22:58]  Eve Express: new question

[22:58]  Eve Express: lol

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: just shy of 30,000

[22:58]  Kaarle Mukane: Heh

[22:58]  Randall Rascal: 10

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: for last 6 months

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: (an actualy login)

[22:58]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 10 is quite correct, Randy

[22:58]  Randall Rascal: thank you :)

[22:58]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hardcore onliners

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: we'll like start to stir the user base a bit

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: in the coming months

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: with all the new features

[22:59]  Randall Rascal: lol yah i even wake up to a crased region

[22:59]  Pantaiputih Korobase: leads to the question as to when we will advertise OL a bit to get more constant users

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: Aug 1st

[22:59]  Pantaiputih Korobase: kk, good

[22:59]  Pantaiputih Korobase: (tattoos this in his brain)

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: (which co-incides with our cr reverse date)

[22:59]  Shai Khalifa: you're emailing entire registered list with info??

[22:59]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[23:00]  Shai Khalifa: if you are, you'd better get Welcome Is

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: we will actually have a terms of use update

[23:00]  Shai Khalifa: Island finished

[23:00]  Randall Rascal: leave space of nxg pants

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: aug 1st

[23:00]  Randall Rascal: for*

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: so we wil email everyone

[23:00]  Pantaiputih Korobase: WI is a mess

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: in accordance with our existing terms of use

[23:00]  Shai Khalifa: will be a lot of people will enter via WI if they've not logged in for a while

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: letting them know there is a new terms of use

[23:00]  Pantaiputih Korobase: just get a builder there

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: *and a some blurb at the same time :)

[23:01]  Shai Khalifa: yeah you need a team in there Sakai to get it finished

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: we also have emails going out soon for inactive accounts

[23:01]  Grimley Graves: there HAS been progress, but it's still pretty empty

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: as there will be an expirey

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: on accounts

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: of 18months no login

[23:01]  Eve Express: maybe sl will do something really stiupid again, just in time

[23:01]  Eve Express: lol

[23:01]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, Eve

[23:01]  Shai Khalifa: oh good, it's very good to know there's now an account expiry date

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: *this is so we can clean up the inventory and assets etc that are unused on a regular basis

[23:01]  Shai Khalifa: that will mean the numbers will be a bit more realistic

[23:02]  Eve Express: ok, what happens to inventory of unused accounts?

[23:02]  Surreal Numbers: there have been so many changes in ol over the last year that many residents are looking forward to finally seeing the grid being advertised.

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: it dispaears *on many conditions

[23:02]  Eve Express: ??

[23:02]  Shai Khalifa: yeah, very much so Surreal -

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: *On many conditions because someone might be inactive but have things in world

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: or have sold items etc

[23:02]  Cheops Forlife: oh yes let them know before erasing their axcount!

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: we put a 30 day notice to ther user too

[23:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: you still get an email and can be active again, so no problem from my point of view

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: yes doesn't take much

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: just 1 login

[23:03]  Eve Express: but, if theynignore all your emails and it goes where?

[23:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: nirwana!

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: the blue bag :)

[23:03]  Surreal Numbers: Prim Heaven

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: and will we have the option of deleting alts from The Hub again - I don't want to bring one of mine inworld cos it wil again activate it

[23:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[23:03]  Eve Express: the blue bag?

[23:03]  Violet Indigo: (SL did just do something stupid again! As a result ElfClan have given up on SL)

[23:04]  Pantaiputih Korobase: omg, we will get more elves again then?

[23:04]  Violet Indigo: No

[23:04]  Shai Khalifa: they should be here Vi

[23:04]  Maxx Qarnac: lol

[23:04]  Violet Indigo: They've gone to that other place

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: so any other Q's

[23:04]  Maxx Qarnac: what did sl do this time?

[23:04]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ooo tha I place

[23:04]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[23:05]  Eve Express: in all honesty, i want to know what happens to abandoned content

[23:05]  Violet Indigo: Payment didn't work for a few days so sims were not getting paid for

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: oh ok Eve

[23:05]  Eve Express: especially creative content

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: so basically

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: if a user doesn't login in 18months

[23:05]  Violet Indigo: and LL closed Peter LIoncourt's acct

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: then we will make it inactive

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: I read about that

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: Vi

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: depending on what exists

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: in world etc

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: we will clean out the inventory

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: and assets

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: *this is a little complex

[23:06]  Maxx Qarnac: delete or move the inv?

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: but essentially

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: if an asset

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: isn't referenced by any other inventory

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: or any other prims

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: *(inventory being all inventory across all accounts)

[23:06]  Cheops Forlife: so can we have items that we bought and will become created by unknown avatar or loading....? Or the item will be deleted??

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: no

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: you cannot lose

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: an item

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: *not possible

[23:07]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I can understand in that way that we would like to have "active" users and it is not too much to demand for them to log in at least once in 18 months....................

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: well for us to hold the inventory is free

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: *it's free to join openlife

[23:07]  Shai Khalifa: that's why items have a UUID - the unique identifier - so can be cross referenced to all

[23:07]  Randall Rascal: i have an issue with my friendslist but if i remember correct you where working on it?

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: yes freinds is completely redone next week

[23:07]  Eve Express: ok, you don't have a delete plan for creative content that is abandoned?

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: no there is a plan

[23:08]  Shai Khalifa: Sakai, you may need to detail the entire implications of account cleaning in the email you send out

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: but what I'm trying to say

[23:08]  Pantaiputih Korobase: pff, I lose friends on the website (in erms of total count) and after refreshing, all are back again (or not)

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: is that without any ref to an item

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: the item is already essentially an orhpan

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: (which no one can presently access in it's current position)

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: *somewhere deep in the sotrage base

[23:08]  Eve Express: and you delete orphans? or recycle them?

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: so those items will delete

[23:09]  Pantaiputih Korobase: can we adopt the orphans, ol?

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[23:09]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol?*

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: makes sense to me

[23:09]  Grimley Graves: ie, a texture uploaded but never used?

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: right

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: as an example a texture

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: if it isn't referenced by anything

[23:09]  Pantaiputih Korobase: may be make a big orphan continent to show........... lol

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: anywhere

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: in anyones inv

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: then it will be removed

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: but it if it was referenced

[23:09]  Eve Express: got it

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: by another user

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: if 3D started using other people's assets they didn't want, there'd be all kinds of hell break loose

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: then it stays

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: because we won't break existing inventory

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: of other users

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: earlier in the year

[23:10]  Maxx Qarnac: that makes sense

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: we did a real run

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: of a test run

[23:10]  Grimley Graves: does this include things in my inv that I've never used?

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: no

[23:10]  Grimley Graves: ok

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: because you're active

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: in our test run

[23:10]  Shai Khalifa: and the account of those you're holding inventory open for - does that still stay active, or does it go in the Deactivated pile?

[23:10]  Grimley Graves: cool

[23:11]  Cheops Forlife: yes and will never use but just liking to keep it like photos souvenirs?

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: we removed 'deleted' accounts inventory

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: in the same method

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: (and assets)

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: and as is evident it effected no one

[23:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I assume everyone uses each inventory item, lol

[23:11]  Grimley Graves: hmm, wait

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: but it did clean up about 27 million items

[23:11]  Maxx Qarnac: wow

[23:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 19 million from Cheops?

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: today we hold nearly 300 million items

[23:11]  Grimley Graves: could that be part of the "bee stripe" no texture found issue?

[23:12]  Eve Express hides at Pants statement, hanging her head looooow

[23:12]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hehe

[23:12]  Shai Khalifa: no, some of my historical pics I've not accessed for years, but I don't want to lose the either Grims, so some of us have unaccessed items

[23:12]  Surreal Numbers: apparently not enough of Cheops' :P

[23:12]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[23:12]  Kaarle Mukane: heh

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: an item can be as simple as a deleted prim

[23:12]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: from a region

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: that was also deleted from the rubbish bin

[23:12]  Shai Khalifa: the bee striping on a texture only seems to be on the skirt layer - odly enough

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: but still exists in our storage

[23:13]  Surreal Numbers: i shouldnt talk... i have quite a collection of items labelled "Primitive"

[23:13]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol Surr

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: *ah reminds me

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: before aug 1st

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: we have an update

[23:13]  Grimley Graves: I'm just wondering what causes a texture to get "lost" and replaced with the black/yellow stripes?

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: thata implements collection items

[23:13]  Shai Khalifa: hehe Pants, you need to do a clean up, that's probably what the smell is

[23:13]  Eve Express: what ablout off sim extensions?

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: (grab a bunch of prims and store as 1 collection item)

[23:13]  Eve Express: is that ability comming/?

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: yep

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: prior to aug 1st it will be here

[23:14]  Eve Express: coolio

[23:14]  Eve Express runs to make islands, waterfalls and cliffs

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: (aug 1st is shaping into quite a big target date for us)

[23:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: year? (sorry)

[23:14]  Shai Khalifa: will we also finally get the Lite Regions?

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: hehe 2020

[23:14]  Eve Express: lol @ pants

[23:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: LOL

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: because the world will end next year right?

[23:15]  Grimley Graves: yes it is, hope you can get some sleep

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: so we don't actually have to do it?

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: (kidding)

[23:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: haha

[23:15]  Grimley Graves: lol

[23:15]  Shai Khalifa: lol - slap

[23:15]  Eve Express: how are lite sims different?

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: mm i packed up all the boards

[23:15]  Cheops Forlife: we'll come here all in 2012!

[23:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 2020

[23:15]  Surreal Numbers: apparently not. there was a misinterpratation of the astrological calendar and the end of the world has been delayed some 60 years or so (i think)

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: there is a post in the forum

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: about lite regions

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: the region next door

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: Northern

[23:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: but you need to log in at least each 18 months,..........

[23:15]  Shai Khalifa: roflmao Surreal

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: is actually a lite region

[23:16]  Shai Khalifa: coolio

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: we will actually redo the regions delivery mechanism

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: in the next few weeks

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: (order page etc)

[23:16]  Eve Express: price, prims, script use, avatar numbers?

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: at the same time the lite regions will arrive

[23:16]  Shai Khalifa: so people can nominate location???

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: yeah

[23:16]  Shai Khalifa: yayyyyyyyyyyy!

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: and we'll implement a live tracker

[23:17]  Shai Khalifa: that will reduce workload for you guys having to relocate them all the time

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: so you can watch it go online

[23:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yep

[23:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ooooooh emerge!

[23:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cool

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: (it goes online within 60secs of order atm anyway)

[23:17]  Randall Rascal: awww

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: but we'll do an interactive on the site

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: so you can see it happen

[23:17]  Shai Khalifa: :)

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: and know it's up before login

[23:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: without Scotch even

[23:18]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[23:18]  Sakai Openlife: *I did have another group question

[23:18]  Randall Rascal: lol

[23:18]  Sakai Openlife: offline group chat viewing

[23:18]  Sakai Openlife: a want a not want?

[23:18]  Shai Khalifa: not fussed personally

[23:18]  Sakai Openlife: *being able to view the chat live from the web

[23:18]  Grimley Graves: meh

[23:18]  Grimley Graves: offline IM response YES

[23:18]  Shai Khalifa: if someone wants to get me as a result of a group discussion they can IM me which I'll get

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: ok

[23:19]  Pantaiputih Korobase: to me IMs mroe importantn, groups nice to have

[23:19]  Randall Rascal: well incase of future griefers it ccould be usefull

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: what about a history / observe page for owners?

[23:19]  Randall Rascal: to be able to read back groupchat

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: *being able to read all chat

[23:19]  Cheops Forlife: the one having time to look at the conversation in site has the time to log inworld no?

[23:19]  Eve Express: and kick griefers

[23:19]  Eve Express: or jerks

[23:19]  Maxx Qarnac: and rogues

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: griefers

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: *I can mention something there

[23:20]  Eve Express: horde too

[23:20]  Violet Indigo: Will there ever be open sea around mainland (once it is rebuilt)?

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: apart from that they are rare

[23:20]  Grimley Graves: history might be nice, but not something I would use a lot

[23:20]  Maxx Qarnac: lol

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: we will implement a crowd based griefing report system

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: on the site

[23:20]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I have some sea regions around my regions, violet

[23:20]  Shai Khalifa: actually, that's a good point for an option for region owners - to be able to kick people from their region via the web. If you're not online and someone reports to you but who can't kick - would be very very handy

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: which can allow fast response

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: basically enough ppl report

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: and the system auto boots

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: Shai how can you know that the person who reports is right???ß

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: with a freeze for 48hrs

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: (enough time for us to look at the reports at our leisure)

[23:21]  Grimley Graves: I wouldn't reccomend auto-boot

[23:21]  Shai Khalifa: Pants, if Cheops for example, reported, I'd have faith in her

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: and then either enforce a full ban or not

[23:21]  Violet Indigo: Pants - sea you can go into?

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, if Cheops, sure

[23:21]  Violet Indigo: I can see sea buit I can't go into it.

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I think I can, Violet, they are regions

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: eery region has sea

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: but it's generated by the viewer

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: (which is why there are no big holes in the map)

[23:22]  Shai Khalifa: yeah, you're different thoug Pants cos it's old Mainland,

[23:22]  Cheops Forlife: I'm better never be wrong oops lol

[23:22]  Violet Indigo: Ah - Some coasts got real sea regions but I don't think they ever got as far as teh North coast.

[23:22]  Grimley Graves: look on the map Violet, it will show as a region

[23:22]  Pantaiputih Korobase: in my casem, its regions, so "real" virtual sea

[23:22]  Randall Rascal: lol

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: yeah if you look near violets region

[23:22]  Eve Express wants to go sailing

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: there was some new land recently

[23:22]  Violet Indigo: That's what I@m talking about - I only have generated sea not real sea

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: we do intend on bringing back a few more mainland regions

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: and releasing

[23:23]  Shai Khalifa: oh excellent Sakai

[23:23]  Violet Indigo: Yes, I have new neighbouring land

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: *not a lot

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: but a few

[23:23]  Eve Express: you can put sea around our place

[23:23]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, but accesible, i.e. the region west of PEnygil, violet?

[23:23]  Shai Khalifa: small groups of mainland regions would be great

[23:23]  Violet Indigo: but I used to be in the high point of teh coast and it gradually tapered down to sea level over about 6 regions either way

[23:23]  Violet Indigo: Now it drops away from my region

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: that was fantastic yeah!

[23:24]  Violet Indigo: down to teh lower regions next door

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: *I remember when the mainland was 256 regions

[23:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: now its 10 or 12

[23:24]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, and I bought the last one available

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: it was a massive big section

[23:24]  Grimley Graves: I think we should have a definite mainland area

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: we'll see what happens really

[23:24]  Shai Khalifa: me too Grims, but not a huge swathe

[23:24]  Eve Express votes for a place to surf

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: *Is basically our approacj

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: atm

[23:24]  Grimley Graves: maybe not that big, but something to give a sense of a "world"

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: since PR

[23:25]  Shai Khalifa puts han up for Eve's suggestion

[23:25]  Violet Indigo: It woudl be nice to have real sea regions aroudn mainland

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: we could do it only if we grew mainland alot

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: *otherwise it's a lot of resources added just for small amounts of mainland

[23:26]  Grimley Graves: true

[23:26]  Randall Rascal: buy 8 more regions around your main region violet and dont do anything with them

[23:26]  Shai Khalifa: I see the point

[23:26]  Pantaiputih Korobase: it would be nice to have mainland back again and sea around it, atm, mainland regions are simoply spread if any at all escept Violets and mine

[23:26]  Eve Express: seriously, is it resource heavy to put seas around our regions?

[23:26]  Grimley Graves: have to reinstate the mainland purchases, and advertise them

[23:26]  Violet Indigo: I can't afford teh two that I've got

[23:26]  Randall Rascal: there you go real virtual sea :)

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: but at the end of the day it will be 3 options

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: lite, mainland and PR

[23:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I also consider to scale down some of my regions to light regions once available

[23:27]  Eve Express: still not certain off differences between lite and pr

[23:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: to be able to afford my regions

[23:27]  Sakai Openlife: hehe yes some of your regions would need to lose a few pounds

[23:27]  Sakai Openlife: to fit into a lite region

[23:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: thought development of OL was quicker when I joined

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: pff, regions support is 45k, so I use it, ehehehe

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: :-)

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: (I refer to lite)

[23:28]  Eve Express: i'm amazed at how much has improved innthe last 10 months

[23:28]  Shai Khalifa: lol, I love your villages Pants

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife smiles

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: me2, Shai, haha

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: well hopefully we can impress the pants of everyone in the next few months too

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: so, Iam not sure which regions to give up

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: or convert

[23:28]  Pantaiputih Korobase: haha

[23:28]  Shai Khalifa: no, please don't send Pants anywhere

[23:29]  Randall Rascal: toss a coin pants

[23:29]  Eve Express: i'll trade prims for more labd to fill

[23:29]  Pantaiputih Korobase: pants will always nedd some pants

[23:29]  Eve Express: land

[23:29]  Pantaiputih Korobase: othewise not G rated

[23:29]  Grimley Graves: any progress on the mainland "landing point" issue?

[23:29]  Sakai Openlife: landing points are redone

[23:29]  Sakai Openlife: earlier this week

[23:29]  Pantaiputih Korobase: this is good news

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: so it will be a part of next weeks update cycle

[23:30]  Grimley Graves: cool

[23:30]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cool

[23:30]  Violet Indigo: Good

[23:30]  Cheops Forlife: and is the spider system working? I saw Phoenix or Gaia restarting alone since 2 days

[23:30]  Pantaiputih Korobase: so not 128, 128, 0 for all unchangeable?

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: Cranston was good fun too

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: last weekend

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: who is up this weekend?

[23:31]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yep, and this Saturday will be god too

[23:31]  Shai Khalifa: Joachin is playing again

[23:31]  Cheops Forlife: excellent guitarist

[23:31]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I heard Sakai is back ground vocal this week

[23:31]  Shai Khalifa: I've got the acts locked in now for each week until the end of June

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: hehe last week i was actually awake at that early early time

[23:32]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, I was waiting to book him for a DJ party

[23:32]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: dunno about this week

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: but if i am i'll be there

[23:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: nice

[23:32]  Shai Khalifa: cool

[23:32]  Shai Khalifa: Joachin also brings over one or two of his fans

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: i smiled when i saw virtually live is top of google

[23:32]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[23:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cool

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: *above many other real world things labelled virtually live

[23:33]  Kaarle Mukane: Heh really :)

[23:33]  Grimley Graves: nice, didn't notice that

[23:33]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, and actualy it's Joaquin's gig that's top of google

[23:33]  Maxx Qarnac: nice

[23:33]  Shai Khalifa: hehe it's even ahead of HandLand

[23:33]  Sakai Openlife: so looks like your brand building there Surreal :)

[23:34]  Pantaiputih Korobase: gives me an idea: instant sign up via other i..e social network sites

[23:34]  Pantaiputih Korobase: you only would have need to download the viewer then

[23:34]  Pantaiputih Korobase: to get in

[23:34]  Shai Khalifa: lol, it's a lot thanks to our mega forum thread I'm sure

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: we were thinking we might made a tp link maker

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: *to generate html ppl can cut paste

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: into other places

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: for TP links

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: *Already if you land on tp page not logged in or not a user

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: it does suggest registration

[23:35]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes

[23:35]  Shai Khalifa: cool

[23:35]  Cheops Forlife: sure!

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: so that target looking icon thing

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: would be generated as a link

[23:35]  Pantaiputih Korobase: and the web TP works quite well

[23:36]  Sakai Openlife: with a few options

[23:36]  Sakai Openlife: to generate some html for you

[23:36]  Shai Khalifa: oh cool - I need to get into it and put links on OracL - just need some time - which I won't have now for about a month

[23:37]  Grimley Graves: well, looks like we've about wrapped up, I gotta run and get food now

[23:37]  Sakai Openlife: yes we have :)

[23:37]  Eve Express: bye Grim