inworld 3DX meeting - 28 April 2011

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[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: So for first timer meeter upperers

[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: it's pretty informal

[22:03]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Shai

[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: I usually let everyone know what we've been up to

[22:03]  April Springs: Hi Shai

[22:03]  Sakai Openlife: and you can hit me up with questions suggestions etc

[22:03]  Randall Rascal: hi shai

[22:03]  Cheops Forlife: hi Shai

[22:04]  Shai Khalifa: g'day all

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: So I guess I'll start with this week

[22:04]  Grimley Graves: hey, it's.. it's.. SHAI

[22:04]  Grimley Graves: you're alive!!

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: I think many might know i was a bit dissapointed with progress

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: (our end not yours)

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: so i cleared the whole week

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: and knuckled into code

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: and we'll come out with 3 updates

[22:04]  Sakai Openlife: all really close together

[22:05]  Cheops Forlife: hi Surr

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: the focus this weeks was just getting the groups completed

[22:05]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Surr

[22:05]  April Springs: Hi sureeal

[22:05]  Surreal Numbers: hi!

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: which we've done :)

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: with some minor tasks to finish off

[22:05]  Grimley Graves: :O

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: so

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: there'll be an update that will effectively 'freeze' groups

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: so that we can update again

[22:05]  Sakai Openlife: with enabled functions

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: (we can't do the 2nd unless we freeze it)

[22:06]  Shai Khalifa: what you mean freeze?

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: *ie if some group thing changed in the middle of update it would not be friendly

[22:06]  Grimley Graves: freeze away :)

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: so the freeze is only from one update to the next

[22:06]  Sakai Openlife: maybe a few hours at most

[22:06]  Shai Khalifa: ah - and I echo Grims

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: The 2nd update 'enabling'

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: brings all the group management

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: grou views

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: and things like that

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: the 3rd update enables the messaging parts of groups

[22:07]  Grimley Graves: notices?

[22:07]  Grimley Graves: chat?

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: (yep chat/ notices etc)

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: there is a 4th part that i won't get to until sunday

[22:07]  Sakai Openlife: but Sunday / Monday

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: I'll go through all the group based lsl

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: functions

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: and complete those

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: wrapping up groups

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:08]  Shai Khalifa cheers

[22:08]  Grimley Graves: I'll be able to exhale soon?

[22:08]  Cinnamon Faith: :)

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: so with some nice news for you I can move the meet up to those points in the forum post

[22:08]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:09]  Cinnamon Faith: I thought zombies didnt breathe :P

[22:09]  Grimley Graves: hi Melissa

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: There is NOW as of this meet

[22:09]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi

[22:09]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Melissa

[22:09]  Shai Khalifa: Hi melissa

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: an official release date for credits reverse

[22:09]  April Springs: Hi Melissa

[22:09]  Sakai Openlife: (the ability to turn credits into $)

[22:09]  Cheops Forlife: hi Melissa

[22:09]  Randall Rascal: hi melissa

[22:10]  Grimley Graves: DO go on :)

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: 1st August

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: on the dot

[22:10]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi everybody

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: we'll enable the feature

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: this basically gives approx 90days

[22:10]  Shai Khalifa: excellent - good lead time

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: for anyone wanting to prepare / build up etc

[22:10]  Sakai Openlife: *and even earn before then

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: This date is 'firm'

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: we have our legal bits done

[22:11]  Shai Khalifa: what's the mechanism for it?

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: and we'll develop up the ability into the web

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: between now and then

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: The full detalis for it we'll post into the forum

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: (including the date)

[22:11]  Sakai Openlife: so everyone can know about it

[22:11]  Shai Khalifa: coolies

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: Credits Reverse as opposed to previous ideas

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: for it

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: will actually be available to any approved Premium User

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: *there are some obscur countries we can't support

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: (at the time of release)

[22:12]  Sakai Openlife: but those will be mentioned

[22:12]  Shai Khalifa: kk

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: and not so obscure (china)

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: we have some extra legal to do for

[22:13]  Shai Khalifa: how many chinese residents do we have in OL?

[22:13]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:13]  Sakai Openlife: but for 98% of us if you're premium and have paypal it should be possible

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Premium Membership is something we haven't yet released

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: but

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: we would like to anounce it at next weeks meet

[22:14]  Shai Khalifa: hey Kaarle

[22:14]  Cheops Forlife: hi Kaarle

[22:14]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Kaarle

[22:14]  Randall Rascal: i wonder if im premium lol

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: Our current scribble notes about premium

[22:15]  April Springs: Hi Kaarle

[22:15]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi Kaarle

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: would be a yearly membership

[22:15]  Grimley Graves: sign me up for premium, right now, no questions asked :)

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: that would come

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: with a bunch of benefits

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: and extras

[22:15]  Kaarle Mukane: Hello, sorry I have some lag problems, but I am here too.

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: nps

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: ;)

[22:15]  Shai Khalifa: someone's inventory probably

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: one of the benefits of premium

[22:15]  Cheops Forlife: was me fo once

[22:16]  Cheops Forlife: for*

[22:16]  Shai Khalifa: roflmao

[22:16]  Kaarle Mukane: Heh, one seat was free

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: is likely to include a total of approx 1000 free uploads

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: (about 85 a month)

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: and a monthly credits (stipend?)

[22:16]  Shai Khalifa claps

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: that would be paid weekly

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: direct to your avatar automatically

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: we're also thinking about some other concepts for premium users

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: but

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: we will also add the prem option

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: as an available restriction for region owners

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: (so if you wanted to restrict your land to premium users only you could)

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: and also include the lsl for 'verified' (which would be premium users)

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: the cost for this at a yearly membership should be under $10 a month

[22:19]  Shai Khalifa: so it would be possible to sell items specifically to Premium members?

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: (should = WILL)

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: if you used an lsl based vendor you coul

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: could

[22:19]  Shai Khalifa: I'm just thinking of a way residents can also provide additional benefit

[22:19]  Grimley Graves: dont cut yourself short Sakai, if $10 would be best then so be it

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: you also need to be over 18 to be a premium user

[22:20]  Shai Khalifa: makes good sense

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: which is why prem will = verified in the lsl

[22:20]  Grimley Graves: the biggest benefit of this will be more income for you, and hence better development resources

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: so if you were particularly targeting no younger users then prem might be a restriction you want to use

[22:20]  Shai Khalifa: will the Premium Member fee be paid annually or monthly?

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: annually

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: this reduces administration and of course makes it a better offer to you (by us not having to bulk up in admin costs)

[22:21]  Shai Khalifa: with an auto reminder of when it's due? or an auto renew?

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: it won't auto renew by 'default'

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: but like all other things

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: we will have reminders

[22:21]  Shai Khalifa: excellent

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: The reason we don't auto-charge

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: is that we don't want cancellation dramas

[22:22]  Shai Khalifa: understandable

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: we would like to keep the relationship between 3DX and openlife users at its best :)

[22:22]  Shai Khalifa: giving people options is good PR

[22:22]  Grimley Graves: question... will cashout involve conversion to Lindens? or will it be independent? (please let it be independent)

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: lindens?

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: credits?

[22:23]  Randall Rascal: yeap bu one yearly fee might scare people

[22:23]  Shai Khalifa: it also means that you have an annual opportunity to add extra bonus etc if you want

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: (we have no place for lindens here)

[22:23]  Grimley Graves: conversion from credits to lindens

[22:23]  Grimley Graves: YAY

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: no we have no relationship with sl

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: or linden labs really

[22:23]  Shai Khalifa: I'm so glad there's no relationship with SL

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: so it's credits to USD

[22:23]  Grimley Graves: every other grid that claims to have cashout is just a conversion program

[22:23]  Shai Khalifa: that's a big huge plus for us

[22:23]  Grimley Graves: including IW (last time I checked

[22:24]  Grimley Graves: monsterous plus

[22:24]  Shai Khalifa: yes Grims - and to cash out of SL there's always a 3% impost to you

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: we're really not interested in fussing it to be honest

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: it's simple for us to just organise and complete the transaction

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: in USD$

[22:24]  Grimley Graves: thats the BEST news I've hear all year

[22:24]  Shai Khalifa: which brings me to the next point - will there be an impost on cashing out?

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: Be Premium

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: have a verified paypal account

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: be over 18

[22:25]  Grimley Graves: so no transaction fee?

[22:25]  Shai Khalifa: so no cash out charge by 3DX?

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: there will be a variable rate

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: posted into the credits reverse section

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: of the new prem users management page

[22:25]  Shai Khalifa: kk, so you're pegging the C to the USD?

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: So obvious question why variable rate?

[22:25]  Grimley Graves: like a market rate?

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: variable rate is to allow us to take into account

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: things like chargebacks

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: or fraudulent credits purchases

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: and also should we issue credits to new users

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: as rewards etc

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: this in some way dliutes the credits

[22:26]  Shai Khalifa: makes sense

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: at the same time expired or suspended accounts

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: may also strengthen the credits variable

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: and lastly there is always adminstration costs involved in processing

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: such as merchant fees we paid to get the $ in the first place

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: and accounting costs

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: (sounds like lots of things)

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: but we will calc and keep updating the rate

[22:28]  Grimley Graves: so there will be a fee, but not a "we're greedy" fee

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: there'll be some difference

[22:28]  Grimley Graves: understood

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: 1:1 is not possible (it would be giving away money)

[22:29]  Grimley Graves: understood

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: however the plan we're putting forward is different to the opriginal

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: in that you don't 'have' to own land

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: to be a participant

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: or even to be a premium user

[22:29]  Grimley Graves: thats good

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: (and vice versa)

[22:30]  April Springs: Hi Faya

[22:30]  Grimley Graves: hi Faya

[22:30]  Shai Khalifa: that will make a number of merchants very happy

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: oops I'm out of pose balls

[22:30]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Faya

[22:30]  Shai Khalifa: g'day Faya, welcome toyour first meeting

[22:30]  Cinnamon Faith: just slide us over like last time Sakai ;P

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: you can have my pose

[22:30]  Faya McKinney: Hi and thank you!

[22:30]  Cheops Forlife: hi Faya

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: (I sit most of the day anyways)

[22:30]  Shai Khalifa: Sakai cnan drag out one of the old chairs

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife chuckles

[22:31]  Cinnamon Faith: :P

[22:31]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: so last part

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: was

[22:31]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi Faya

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: we also wanted to introduce some incentives

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: and we have at least 2

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: first being as we're about to anounce the credits reverse publicly

[22:31]  Shai Khalifa: Faya, just so you know, I post the chat logs on OracL so you can read what's gone so far later

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: we'll also put some incentive out for existing VMB's

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: (Virtual Micro Businesses)

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: to get involved

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: via referral from foundation resident users

[22:32]  Faya McKinney: *nods

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: (basically users that are more than a year old)

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: can nominate your avatar

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: for a free month

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: on your region purchase

[22:32]  Cinnamon Faith: oh wow

[22:32]  Randall Rascal: aww thats nice :)

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: so if you have something setup elsewhere

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: (ie SL)

[22:33]  April Springs: Hi Jess

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: and you wanted to do it

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: here

[22:33]  Randall Rascal: i only have to ait a ear :P

[22:33]  Cinnamon Faith: hi Jess

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: g'day Jess

[22:33]  Randall Rascal: year

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: then you just need a older resident here to reccommend

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: you

[22:33]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi Jess

[22:33]  Jess McKinney: Hi everyone

[22:33]  Cheops Forlife: hi Jess

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: and if you buy a region we'll add an extra month free on their recommendation

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, us oldies have a purpose

[22:33]  Kaarle Mukane: Hello

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[22:33]  Cinnamon Faith: very nice

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: *So that will become a web option for users older than a year to post us a referral

[22:34]  Traillie Ponnier: lol

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: that page should go up after the next meet

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: so that's nice for the person being referred

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: we thought we might also think about referrers

[22:34]  Randall Rascal: yeap

[22:34]  Surreal Numbers: feeling downright venerable :P

[22:34]  Shai Khalifa: it's a good idea - as it also means that anyone wanting to make use of it has to have contact with someone who's experienced in the world - a good association

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: so

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: we did put our heads together

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: and decided we can do a referral for prem users too

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: so if you are a premium user

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: and you referred another avatar to premium too

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: we'll lump 1500cr straight on your account

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: (about $10 of credits)

[22:35]  Shai Khalifa: noice

[22:35]  Grimley Graves: cool

[22:36]  Randall Rascal: so hereby i refer everybody in this room :) thankyou

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: which should be a nice fat healthy sum to go crazy and buy more hair

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: :p

[22:36]  Faya McKinney: *giggling

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: (I need more hair too)

[22:36]  Grimley Graves: or tip performers :D

[22:36]  Cinnamon Faith: lol

[22:36]  Grimley Graves: I always feel guilty that I cant tip more

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: so that's pretty much all the jawbreaking info i had for this meet

[22:36]  Shai Khalifa: I can't see anyone ripping the system off, as they'd have to confince someone to part with the Premium fee before they'd get any benefit

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: Any Q's?

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: or feedback?

[22:37]  Grimley Graves: I have a suggestion...

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: sure

[22:37]  Grimley Graves: before you announce credit reverse publically, might I suggest you wait till it's fully tested, by the core group here

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: it's ok

[22:37]  Shai Khalifa nods

[22:37]  Grimley Graves: might avoit nasty bugs

[22:37]  Grimley Graves: avoid

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: there's a 90 day lead ;)

[22:38]  Grimley Graves: for testing?

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: the biggest issues were not anything really to do with the transaction

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: (actually was the legal)

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: it's not a

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: 'live' system

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: per se

[22:38]  Shai Khalifa: yeah, but as it's a web-based transaction, the method could probably do with user testing

[22:38]  Grimley Graves: understood, I just dont want to lose good new residents because of a buggy system

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: it will actually cashout periodically

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: we won't

[22:39]  Cheops Forlife: I didn't understand anything but don't explain again, I'll re read all and everyone will be very gentle with me for explaining until august

[22:39]  Grimley Graves: we are a lot more bug tolerant than a newcomer

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: we already have the ability to withdraw credits already

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: and do so on overdue accounts

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: so it's quite 'tested'

[22:39]  Randall Rascal: whats the new startup deal for a region on may 1st? :)

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: ah you have to wait until the 1st!

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[22:39]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:39]  Grimley Graves: but I meant from the "end user" perspective

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: but a hint is that it's not $99 anymore

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: (it's higher) with a credits bundle

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: The $99 is quite sharp really

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: (and a good deal)

[22:40]  Randall Rascal: okaylol

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: so we couldn't do it forever

[22:40]  Grimley Graves: are normal region prices staying the same?

[22:40]  Randall Rascal: still have 1 day lft so ll buytonigh probs

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: absolutely

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: they've only ever gone down

[22:41]  Grimley Graves: yeah :)

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: we've never raised the price in 3 yrs

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: (but it has dropped a few times)

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: hence now we have a sweet automated system

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: instant delivery

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: no setups

[22:41]  Grimley Graves: I know LOL I'm waiting for the axe to fall (me? cynical? NOOOO)

[22:41]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: *we don't have a setup fee because we don't do anything

[22:42]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: we made the software that does it for us

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: so only fair you we don't charge

[22:42]  Shai Khalifa: if you do raise new region fees, will you continue to grandfather old ones?

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: we are not

[22:42]  Kaarle Mukane: Heh

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: I really can't forsee that we would or should

[22:43]  Shai Khalifa: :) just covering off on potential resident question

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: I think our 3yr+ track record covers that ;)

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: we wouldn't be working on a lite region if we were going to do any raises either

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: there was another side benefit to prem

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: that we will list

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: (because at some point it will happen)

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: but that prem users will get early access to be beta bunnies in NXG

[22:44]  Faya McKinney: *hopes no one notices she is scrolling backwards to get a handle on all this and is very pleased it will be posted later to read through slowly

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa jumps up and cheers loud

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa: whoot

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa rubs hands with glee

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: so basically we don't intend on openning nxg to any testers

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: besides prem

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: when it's eventually ready then we'll open to everyone

[22:46]  Randall Rascal: and whats nxg lol

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: (our next generation virtual world)

[22:46]  Shai Khalifa: oh Randall, are you in for a treat ....

[22:46]  Randall Rascal: ah right

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: (non-SL viewer)

[22:46]  Randall Rascal: sure shai

[22:46]  Grimley Graves: at the last meet you said you had some images to show off, but the meet took a different direction

[22:47]  Shai Khalifa: if you want to get the lowdown, I've put all the meeting logs up on OracL for those meets specificaly about NxG

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: yeah I'll save em

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:47]  Randall Rascal: okay maybe send me a lnk to t lol

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: clearly we're really focussed here

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: so we're not really saying a lot about nxg lately

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: while we bed down some of the last features needed in Openlife

[22:47]  Grimley Graves: good plan :)

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: it will happen but here is now and now is fun

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:48]  Randall Rascal: so what kind of super computer will i need for his nxg lol

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: *you won't

[22:48]  Shai Khalifa: http://www.openlifeoracl.com

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: but it looks mighty pretty

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: and it should even work on a tablet

[22:49]  Randall Rascal: thats nice

[22:49]  Randall Rascal: but ima laptop junky

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: me too

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: haha

[22:49]  Kaarle Mukane: How compatible this Nxg is with OL systems, Can object trasforms to this?

[22:49]  April Springs: and me

[22:49]  Grimley Graves: ugh

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: it definately works on my notebook

[22:49]  Shai Khalifa: hehe - I love my huge screen

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: and my pc screens love it

[22:49]  Randall Rascal: cool :)

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: we'll release alot more info about nxg

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: later in the year

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: but there are some similarities in concept

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: ie users can still create objects

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: sell objects

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: etc etc

[22:50]  Shai Khalifa: yeah, it tends to confuse people who're new to the concept if both platforms get spoken about at the same tme

[22:50]  Cheops Forlife: create inworld?

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: Openlife is a user created world

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: and NXG is target to be the same

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: (user created)

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: just taken to the next level

[22:51]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, imagine WoW meets OL

[22:51]  April Springs: whats nxg

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: liek...

[22:51]  Cheops Forlife: I don't remember about creating in nxg, same kind of tools than here?

[22:51]  Randall Rascal: i also play WoT maybe i can drive my tank to nxg

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: i don't want to steal the meeting to nxg

[22:51]  Grimley Graves: meshes

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: but this was small shot

[22:52]  Kaarle Mukane: But how we can convert previous containtmen to convert NXG, converters or what?

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: of terrain in NXG

[22:52]  Grimley Graves: instead of sculpts

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: nxg has the ability to 'paint' terrain

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: (in the image you can see a different texture applied where the bush has gone)

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: but anyways back to the meet :)

[22:53]  Grimley Graves: I would suggest starting from scratch Kaarle, NXG will be so different that I dont thing OL things will look very good

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: any Q's about Openlife stuff?

[22:53]  Grimley Graves: BTW, I haven't noticed any stuck regions lately, whatever your doing seems to be working :)

[22:53]  Randall Rascal: but basically nxg wil be a differnt world from OL

[22:53]  Grimley Graves: yes

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: (probably the new health suystem we delivered last week)

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: glad to hear it's working well

[22:54]  Melissa Dzieciol: it is

[22:54]  Grimley Graves: any insights on what is causing it?

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[22:54]  Shai Khalifa: yeah noticed that Grims

[22:54]  Cheops Forlife: yes nothing happend untill now

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: secret sauce? mmm not yet

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: but we're still working :)

[22:54]  Grimley Graves: lol, coffee injection?

[22:54]  Cheops Forlife: I have a question

[22:54]  Randall Rascal: beer

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: energy drink called DaiJouBu seems to be filling the fridge in the office lately

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: (japanese means - no worries)

[22:55]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[22:55]  Cheops Forlife: when people will be able to friend when not both inworld?

[22:55]  Shai Khalifa: still cafeine-in-a-can ...

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: next week

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: and also friend using only the web

[22:55]  Cheops Forlife: ok

[22:55]  Randall Rascal: did you test it for nucliar stuff? lol

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: *I have also cleared next week so I can be on Openlife only as well

[22:56]  Cheops Forlife: one of us could enter the search yersterday!!!!!!

[22:56]  Melissa Dzieciol: how are group permissions coming along?

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: hehe I might be glowing?

[22:56]  Randall Rascal: oh btw this track and trace tingy on the map isnt working atleas not for trail and me

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: group perms will complete with all the other group items i mentioned earlier in the meet

[22:56]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[22:56]  Grimley Graves: track and trace??

[22:57]  Randall Rascal: yeap

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: is it an iphone?

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife smiles

[22:57]  Melissa Dzieciol: I missed the first part

[22:57]  Randall Rascal: lol

[22:57]  Grimley Graves: HAHA

[22:57]  Randall Rascal: no in OL you can put yor selfon the map fo your friendsright...

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: ah you mean the green dots?

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: ah

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: no friends

[22:57]  Shai Khalifa: ahh you mean in the Friend List ...

[22:57]  Grimley Graves: group functions are coming by the weekend Melissa

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: map location

[22:58]  Melissa Dzieciol: ok

[22:58]  Melissa Dzieciol: thanks

[22:58]  Grimley Graves: hopefully

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: we're reworking friends

[22:58]  Randall Rascal: soyeap

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: next week

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: so I'll make sure

[22:58]  Randall Rascal: ah ok

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: that one is done too

[22:58]  Melissa Dzieciol: ty

[22:58]  Shai Khalifa: green dots on map is another issue entirely and one that's a pain in the bum as dots are always old

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: yes new old sideways

[22:59]  Grimley Graves: yeah, any progress on them Sakai?

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: mutiple not enough

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: comes in many forms

[22:59]  Randall Rascal: great so i wont have to tp trail al the t ime imlazy

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: yeah we will

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: this week for me was just curshing the outstanding groups tasks

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: (crushing)

[22:59]  Shai Khalifa: I've come inworld sometimes and there have been dots on Welcome Island, no-one there - so they must be old

[23:00]  Grimley Graves: or crashed out

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: I should also say the border crossing

[23:00]  Randall Rascal: yeap

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: after the update

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: will improve

[23:00]  Shai Khalifa: cool

[23:00]  Cheops Forlife: yay!

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: there was some things we introduced in last groups

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: that we have new groups now

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: and will remove

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: and improve the times

[23:00]  Randall Rascal: well my border crossing here is mch beter then in sl

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: but i do see the avatar level

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: with the exception of Grims

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: is getting better

[23:01]  Shai Khalifa: hehe

[23:01]  Grimley Graves: hey

[23:01]  Cheops Forlife: and about friendlist, will permissions be fixed?

[23:01]  Randall Rascal: lol

[23:01]  Grimley Graves: I resemble that remark

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: *I dig grims

[23:01]  Grimley Graves: LOL

[23:01]  Sakai Openlife: but he looked the same for 2yrs now

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: (hehe)

[23:02]  Grimley Graves: hey, dont mess with perfection

[23:02]  Shai Khalifa: he wore a dinner jacket for VLE the other day

[23:02]  Randall Rascal: lol

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: you must be mummified grims

[23:02]  Shai Khalifa: and he was a celery stick another day

[23:02]  Cinnamon Faith: :

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: otherwise shouldn't you decay more?

[23:02]  Grimley Graves: besides, people recognise me right away

[23:02]  Cinnamon Faith: :)

[23:02]  Shai Khalifa: lol, he's achieved perfection then Sakai?

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[23:02]  Grimley Graves: I have a cask of formaldahyde at Noc

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: so those larger anouncement bits

[23:02]  Sakai Openlife: I'll anounce onto the web tommorrow

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: but you heard it here first ;)

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: :)

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: and the forum notices will have the update details

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: and schedule

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: (and we've just used up our hour)

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: oh, saw the new entry pic on the viewer - you not using region pics any more?

[23:04]  Randall Rascal: okay i can sed fried reqw\uest?

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: sure

[23:04]  Randall Rascal: send *

[23:04]  Randall Rascal: request**

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: well we're going to do a mod version of the hub

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: with a background pic

[23:04]  Randall Rascal: sigh my typin

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: and events

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: into the mainscreen

[23:04]  Shai Khalifa: oh the other one we get asked about it Partnering

[23:04]  April Springs: can i just remind people that the dance is at Synclair's Place Mirnet

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: so you can get some ideas of where you might want to go first

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: sure randall

[23:04]  April Springs: tomorrow

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: if you like post a time in the forum

[23:05]  Xtaci Pile: knock knock?

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: and I'll add it to the hub too

[23:05]  April Springs: Hi X

[23:05]  Cinnamon Faith: hi X

[23:05]  Grimley Graves: hey X

[23:05]  Kaarle Mukane: Hi

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: *I also need to update this weekends VLE right/

[23:05]  Xtaci Pile: hi :)

[23:05]  Grimley Graves: yeah

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: Cranston this weekend?

[23:05]  Faya McKinney: Hello X!

[23:05]  Cheops Forlife: hi Xcite

[23:05]  Melissa Dzieciol: hi Xtaci

[23:06]  Randall Rascal: okay thaks muc

[23:06]  Xtaci Pile: hello lovly people of openlife

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: Xcite? wasn't that a sex pose?

[23:06]  Grimley Graves: BTW I need more participants for Mays hunt !!!

[23:06]  Xtaci Pile: im in ?!

[23:06]  Grimley Graves: I only have 7 so far :(

[23:06]  Shai Khalifa: hi X

[23:06]  April Springs: Dance at Synclair's Place Tomorrow at Mirnet

[23:06]  Xtaci Pile: hi

[23:06]  Cheops Forlife: yes! send Grim clues! it is quick done

[23:07]  Grimley Graves: send me a clue X and you can be in

[23:07]  Xtaci Pile: awesome

[23:07]  Grimley Graves: Sunday is the hard deadline

[23:07]  Faya McKinney: I would love to participate but I have to learn how to build a give away first - so maybe next month

[23:07]  Xtaci Pile: hi sakai have you grown since the last time we've meet

[23:07]  Xtaci Pile: ^.^

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: nah I'm the same shorty

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: *my height in m looks ok

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: but avatars all seem to be very very tall!

[23:08]  Grimley Graves: oh, Sakai, I made something for welcome island

[23:08]  Grimley Graves: at least untill it's more polished

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: I'll add in more this weekend

[23:09]  Randall Rascal: made mine shrter

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, no, we're all shorties here with the exception of Pauline

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: maybe not ready for polishing yet

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: but I'll add more

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: hehe, that was Grim's inventory that time

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: *I will fix that

[23:09]  Randall Rascal: good thng im earing this hlmet

[23:09]  Grimley Graves: yep, my bad

[23:09]  Randall Rascal: wearing*

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[23:09]  Grimley Graves: if you want we can put this up there

[23:10]  Cheops Forlife: that is really good Grim!

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: Guys i hate to run with so many here

[23:10]  Cheops Forlife: with LM giver?

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: but my meet time is up

[23:10]  Grimley Graves: make the icons for sale for 0$

[23:10]  Cinnamon Faith: ty Sakai

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: so I need to get back into things

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: but have fun!

[23:10]  Shai Khalifa: thanks for spending time with us Sakai

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: hopefully I'll bump into you somewhere

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: or next week :)

[23:10]  Shai Khalifa: love hearing you're concentrating on OL to get us finished

[23:10]  Randall Rascal: ok sakai have agood one!

[23:10]  Cheops Forlife: bye and thank you Sakai

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: ciao

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife is Offline