Inworld 3DX Meetings - 10 May 09

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INWORLD MEETING WITH SAKAI -  10 May 2009

 

[22:14]  Gino McAllister: our house zombie ^^

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: The buy parcel access pass

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: is also pretty well tested

[22:14]  Linda McAllister: familie zombie :)

[22:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: rofl

[22:14]  Debbie Trilling: every home should ahve one

[22:14]  Debbie Trilling: have

[22:14]  Dawny Cinquetti: he's freindly ^^

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: we just couldn't get it in the other parcel/estate stuff at the time

[22:14]  Sakai Openlife: it will remember you

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: even if you crash etc

[22:15]  Linda McAllister: he only eats brains :)

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: so if someone get's a 2 hr pass

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: it really will work for 2 hours

[22:15]  Gino McAllister: grim.....

[22:15]  Alicia Sautereau: grimley, lets fix that legs issue

[22:15]  Gino McAllister: bahve xD

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: ah yeah that chair is broken sorry

[22:15]  Grimley Graves: grrr

[22:15]  Macphisto Angelus: click on the ball, Grim. :)

[22:15]  Linda McAllister: lol!

[22:15]  Gumby Roffo: thats chairs borkrd Grims

[22:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: you just need to turn around the chair, grim

[22:15]  Sakai Openlife: ur welcome to sit next to me

[22:15]  Grimley Graves: thats what I'm doing

[22:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:16]  Alicia Sautereau: grim, accept tp

[22:16]  Alicia Sautereau: or not lol

[22:16]  Grimley Graves: yay

[22:16]  Linda McAllister: why don't you laugh grim :))

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: the offline IM

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: works in 2 ways

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: you can view offline

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: out of world through the website

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: (actually working now)

[22:16]  Titi Wopat: sakai has bo no sitting next to him......... hehehe

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: by clicking on my messages

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: in the My Toolbox section

[22:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cool

[22:16]  Macphisto Angelus: lol ti

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: if you've read it and don't want to receive it when you login

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: just click the red X

[22:16]  Sakai Openlife: (delete)

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: and it'll delete it for you

[22:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: will they be deleted automtically after a while?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: they will

[22:17]  Linda McAllister: do you get a email when there are messages?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: and that's a topic for this meeting

[22:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: after waht time or after how many messages?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: how long does everyone want it to hand around for?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: do ppl want limits?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: on # of messages?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: or time?

[22:17]  Sakai Openlife: or per person?

[22:18]  Shai Khalifa: ah, so now messages are being retained - that accounts for why I got Elie's IM he send when I was only halfway inworld earlier

[22:18]  Linda McAllister: 100?

[22:18]  Pantaiputih Korobase: may be test it first and see how many messages pop in

[22:18]  Gumby Roffo: << wants button that deletes the avatar that sent the spam :-P

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: we can always take suggestions on the forum etc?

[22:18]  Elieluen Yareah: ah you got it....it told me you were offline though

[22:18]  Shai Khalifa: can we set our own limits

[22:18]  Gino McAllister: rofl gumb

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: We'll look at a few other things via web too

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: such as blocking IM's

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: from particular users

[22:18]  Sakai Openlife: (ie add them to your ban list)

[22:18]  Linda McAllister: yea a block button! :)

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: and also a relay to a desktop app

[22:19]  Linda McAllister: hi Peter :)

[22:19]  Shai Khalifa: and the ability to set our own limits - customise so to speak

[22:19]  phb58 brook: hi linda

[22:19]  Elieluen Yareah: oh fantastic

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: we're intending on producing a live IM client

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: for your desktop

[22:19]  Shai Khalifa: nice

[22:19]  Linda McAllister: in Vista?

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: (then u get 3 settings)

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: offline

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: in world

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: and client only

[22:19]  Sakai Openlife: (semi alive)

[22:20]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: yes only windows atm

[22:20]  Elieluen Yareah: bleh

[22:20]  Pantaiputih Korobase: haha

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: *sorry a lot of work toi do many os

[22:20]  Mayi Lowey: hehe

[22:20]  Alicia Sautereau: will the estate land transfer SSO be active and available after the restart?

[22:20]  Elieluen Yareah: tis ok i am happy with just offline ims atm

[22:20]  Shai Khalifa: bugger, so no Mac either?

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: we won't forget the others just won't be something we can do immediately on release

[22:20]  Sakai Openlife: estate land transfer sso?

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: you mean SSO: Parcel.Purchase ?

[22:21]  Alicia Sautereau: PC land sale sso

[22:21]  Alicia Sautereau: yes

[22:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: does not work everywhere, sakai

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: for selling parcels?

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: works on all PC's

[22:21]  Alicia Sautereau: selling/transfer as rentals

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: (if your's doesn't just let us know and we'll check your settings)

[22:21]  Mayi Lowey: renting out oercels on PC's

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: it's actually pretty smart

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: if you make an error

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: it will reset it

[22:21]  Alicia Sautereau: it isn`t described anywhere on how to use it

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: so that you can't sell wrong

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: etc

[22:21]  Sakai Openlife: ok

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: how about a quick demo here?

[22:22]  Alicia Sautereau: would be great

[22:22]  Linda McAllister: cool

[22:22]  Mayi Lowey: YAY a demo ))))

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: ok pretty easy

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: make a prim

[22:22]  Sakai Openlife: edit the name

[22:22]  Gitfinger Hotspur: Gumbs stop stat padding avies please :P

[22:22]  Macphisto Angelus: lol

[22:23]  Debbie Trilling: edit to what?

[22:23]  Debbie Trilling: am recording this, trying to make a quick film

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: ok

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: so let me explain what i just did

[22:23]  Macphisto Angelus: Hey Surreal

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: I named the prim

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: SSO: Parcel.Purchase

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: I added an option

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: to the description

[22:23]  Surreal Numbers: hi mac

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: Sell To Monkey Openlife

[22:23]  Sakai Openlife: (this will sell it only to him)

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: who is that monkey?

[22:24]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: aaaah

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: I set the item for sale

[22:24]  Shai Khalifa: he a grid monkey?

[22:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hehe

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: in this case a rediculous price

[22:24]  Dawny Cinquetti looks at KLee

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: and chose 'buy object'

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: for the on touch action

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: that's it

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: I don't need to do anything else

[22:24]  Sakai Openlife: immediately it registers with the system

[22:25]  Shai Khalifa: do those we delete then leave the system?

[22:25]  Alicia Sautereau: do we need to set our own texture aswell or is there an general SSO texture that is being set?

[22:25]  Linda McAllister: so only monkey can buy now?

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: if youyes

[22:25]  Debbie Trilling: set it to 1C in my name...just as a test, you understand

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: so if you delete it

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: it's gone

[22:25]  Pantaiputih Korobase: sounds pretty easy

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: there's a couple of options in the SSO: Parcel.Purchase

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: 1st option

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: Sell To Avatar Name

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: goes in the description field

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: or just leave it blank for everyone to buy

[22:25]  Linda McAllister: ahhh ok :)

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: 2nd option is add a texture

[22:25]  Sakai Openlife: to the contents

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: called 'Sold'

[22:26]  Shai Khalifa: what about giving a notecard?

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: this way when a user buys the parcel

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: the texture on the box will change automatically

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: the moment the purchase and transfer happens (instant)

[22:26]  Mayi Lowey: hmmm, what about montly payments then, or do they actually OWN it then ?

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: and 3rd option is you can load it up with whatever you want to give the user

[22:26]  Shai Khalifa: ah cool

[22:26]  Sakai Openlife: so you can add notecards etc etc

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: monthly payments this is not a rental system

[22:27]  Gino McAllister: mac... wtf are you doing?

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: so you will need to organise that with your Avatar

[22:27]  Grimley Graves: nice hat Mac :D

[22:27]  Alicia Sautereau: rental is my business ^^

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: Mac is a good example

[22:27]  Macphisto Angelus: :D

[22:27]  Gino McAllister: xD

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: he tried to make an SSO

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: to sell this parcel

[22:27]  Linda McAllister: on pills :P

[22:27]  Alicia Sautereau: and where do we set what it needs to give out?

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: the system recognised it immediately

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: and said no

[22:27]  Macphisto Angelus: lol

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: it also forced the texture

[22:27]  Mayi Lowey: ok lol

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: on the prim

[22:27]  Sakai Openlife: so that everyone knows it is 'invalid'

[22:27]  Gino McAllister: :)

[22:28]  Gino McAllister: nice option :)

[22:28]  Linda McAllister: and only for land selling ?

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[22:28]  Linda McAllister: k

[22:28]  Mayi Lowey: but the simowner still has the full right to claim the land again, if anything foes haywire ???

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: a user also cannot resell that land

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: only the estate 'owner'

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: can set land for sale

[22:28]  Mayi Lowey: ok

[22:28]  Shai Khalifa: ah cool

[22:28]  Alicia Sautereau: so mac, instead of being unavailable, your now invalid? :P

[22:28]  Sakai Openlife: after a user get's your box

[22:29]  Macphisto Angelus: LOL

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: they cannot use it

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: it becomes useless for selling anything

[22:29]  Mayi Lowey: trashbox

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: they can only use the contents

[22:29]  Macphisto Angelus: I think I am going to keep this.

[22:29]  Gumby Roffo: ( looks for a wheel chair for Mac)

[22:29]  Macphisto Angelus: hehe

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: the same applies with the texture on the outside

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: that you set it with

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: that will disapear

[22:29]  Shai Khalifa: lol Gumby

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: if you add the 'sold' texture

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: to the contents

[22:29]  Sakai Openlife: so they won't have that either

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: what we do recommend

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: is something like this example prim

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: put all the details on the prim

[22:30]  Mayi Lowey: lol i dont have the sold tex in inv ?

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: so the user doesn't get a surprise

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: no you add your own textures

[22:30]  Mayi Lowey: ok

[22:30]  Sakai Openlife: just name the texture 'sold'

[22:30]  Grimley Graves: so if I do a custom build for someone, and put "sell to avatar name" in the description will it work the same? only sell to that avatar?

[22:31]  Mayi Lowey: ok ㋡

[22:31]  Shai Khalifa: I can see someone doing a roaring trade in SSO box texture sets

[22:31]  Alicia Sautereau: and the notecard we want to give out we just have to put in the contents and given automatically?

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: mmm

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: yes it would

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: but

[22:31]  Elieluen Yareah: so i may have missed this earlier but is this only available atm for pcs? or mainland as well?

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: only if it was part of the land

[22:31]  Grimley Graves: or does it only work for land

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: and you were the estate owner

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: and the parcel owner

[22:31]  Pantaiputih Korobase: guess only for pcs, eli

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: it's not a generic 'sell' thing

[22:31]  Macphisto Angelus: too cool!

[22:31]  Alicia Sautereau: cool

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: if you needed such a sell thingg

[22:31]  Grimley Graves: hmmm, it would be nice to be able to do that for anything

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: let us know

[22:31]  Gino McAllister: I think what grimmie means is: it would be nice to have an SSO to do the same but with prim builds

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: and suggest it

[22:31]  Sakai Openlife: and we'll make one

[22:32]  Gino McAllister: good for people who do custom 1 time only buildd

[22:32]  Grimley Graves: that way if you are in a different time zone you wouldn't have to worry about meeting up

[22:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: sakai, this is for pcs only? was a question in here

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: yes it is

[22:32]  Linda McAllister: but thats only for landowners :(

[22:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: after you sell the parcel

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: you can reclaim it afterwards

[22:32]  Grimley Graves: just put it out for sale to the particular person

[22:32]  Sakai Openlife: so it's not permanently theirs

[22:33]  Gino McAllister: nono, the sso to sell builds should be available for all, not just landowners Lin

[22:33]  Shai Khalifa: when is it scheduled for mainland?

[22:33]  Elieluen Yareah: and their tier payments go directly to 3dx or to you?

[22:33]  Grimley Graves: sorry, I'm off topic a bit

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: no it doesn't handle renewal

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: it's just for you to sell

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: whatever the user pays the box

[22:33]  Alicia Sautereau: eli, it`s the same as in sl, only instead of using the land tab to buy, they use the sso

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: goes to the owner of the box

[22:33]  Sakai Openlife: 100%

[22:33]  Pantaiputih Korobase: I need such a box with 'confused' on it instead of 'invalid' :-))))

[22:33]  Alicia Sautereau: lol

[22:34]  Macphisto Angelus: LOL

[22:34]  Elieluen Yareah: ok i think i understand

[22:34]  Mayi Lowey: and the bouer will have the full rights over the parcel, eg. media, kick user ban and return objects ???

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[22:34]  Shai Khalifa: when for mainland?

[22:34]  Mayi Lowey: ok fantastic )))

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: mmm

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: this is a bit of a debate

[22:34]  Sakai Openlife: about mainland

[22:34]  Alicia Sautereau: will for sale be shown on the map?

[22:34]  Alicia Sautereau: land*

[22:35]  Pantaiputih Korobase: bette rnot for mainland

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: 'ity will be'

[22:35]  Linda McAllister: so I can buy 3dx now, but you can reclaim it when you want?

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: the first thing we will do

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: is add it

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: very soon

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: to a list

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: in the Openlife Web

[22:35]  Alicia Sautereau: cool

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: part of the viewer

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: BUT

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: you must know this

[22:35]  Shai Khalifa: ah the famous Sakai "soon" - lol

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: we will 'add' another flag to do it

[22:35]  Alicia Sautereau: soon™ ;)

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: (means you need to write one more thing)

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: and the other part

[22:35]  Linda McAllister: lol

[22:35]  Elieluen Yareah: rofl ali

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: is it WILL show

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: your paid to date

[22:35]  Sakai Openlife: of your region

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: that you put the SSO in

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: this is a condition of listing the parcel

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: (doesn't apply if you don't list it)

[22:36]  Alicia Sautereau: well, if you`d fix my tier, it would be up2date ;)

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: ;)

[22:36]  Alicia Sautereau: any word on the group implementation?

[22:36]  Linda McAllister: snap dr geen bal van ;)

[22:36]  Linda McAllister: shhh

[22:36]  Sakai Openlife: we can quite a few things with groups now

[22:36]  Gino McAllister: lol lin

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: on the test world (development)

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: we should be happy enough with the function

[22:37]  Shai Khalifa: so when we likely to get it then?

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: to release in the next week

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: won't be 'all' functions

[22:37]  Macphisto Angelus: yay

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: the roles part

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: man that is a lot of work

[22:37]  Sakai Openlife: lol

[22:37]  Alicia Sautereau: sounds good, will it work with land access?

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: group -> access?

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: ie private parcel or region

[22:38]  Linda McAllister: groups are coming?

[22:38]  Alicia Sautereau: side question to the SSO, how will it go if we want to deed land to a group as it`s basicly an owner change

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: there's many many many parts of groups

[22:38]  Alicia Sautereau: yes

[22:38]  Elieluen Yareah: the russians are coming

[22:38]  Alicia Sautereau: group access/rights to group land

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: so basically it's going to be a step by step thing

[22:38]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: where we keep adding more function

[22:38]  Shai Khalifa: groups of Russians

[22:38]  Sakai Openlife: and integrating

[22:38]  Alicia Sautereau: ok

[22:39]  Alicia Sautereau: looking forward again :)

[22:39]  Alicia Sautereau: i`m done guys, spam away lol

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: so we've delivered about 3 major sized features

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: in this update

[22:39]  Sakai Openlife: and a good handful of other fixes and bits that we'll explain in the blog post

[22:39]  Elieluen Yareah: ok so when it's implemented we will be able to set scripts and build rights to group?

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: no

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: not 'every' function will be there

[22:40]  Elieluen Yareah: ah ok

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: it will take us time

[22:40]  Elieluen Yareah: sure

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: groups is actually really big

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: (as in all the things it effects)

[22:40]  Elieluen Yareah: yah i can imagine

[22:40]  Linda McAllister: a tree of trouble ;)

[22:40]  Sakai Openlife: and unfortunately we can't only work on groups

[22:40]  Shai Khalifa: and if you screw it up, it's a major screwup, nothing small I guess

[22:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: what about search?

[22:41]  Alicia Sautereau: think most of us are really looking for rez and script right initially along with group chat

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: R16.4

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: and you have search

[22:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok

[22:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: and when 16.4?

[22:41]  Sakai Openlife: which maybe Klee can comment on timeframe for the new viewer?

[22:41]  Shai Khalifa: looks at KLee

[22:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: looks too

[22:41]  Elieluen Yareah: blilnks

[22:41]  Klee Openlife: couple of days

[22:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: excellent

[22:41]  Delilah Bingyi: Sakai just going back to SSOs - how does one transfer a PC to someone else when you are still the estate owner

[22:41]  Linda McAllister: cool!

[22:41]  Shai Khalifa: can we quote you on that mate?

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: transfer a whole PC?

[22:42]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[22:42]  Klee Openlife: currently running thru some basic tests

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: (it only transfers parcels)

[22:42]  Delilah Bingyi: yes

[22:42]  Klee Openlife: making sure everything sticks

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: you need to send a support ticket

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: about that stuff

[22:42]  Shai Khalifa: KLee if you ever want a Mac tester, let me know

[22:42]  Delilah Bingyi: support ticket in a week ago

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: kool

[22:42]  Shai Khalifa: Eli you're Mac too aren't you?

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: then we would usually email everyone

[22:42]  Elieluen Yareah: yah me mac too

[22:42]  Delilah Bingyi: sent by atal yalin and I confirmed wanting to buy via contact

[22:42]  Sakai Openlife: and let them know the timeframe and costs

[22:43]  Sakai Openlife: ok I'll give you an email via IM

[22:43]  Pantaiputih Korobase: mac is invalid, don'T you see :-)))))

[22:43]  Macphisto Angelus: LOL

[22:43]  Elieluen Yareah: rofl

[22:43]  Elieluen Yareah: typical response of windows

[22:43]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[22:43]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: and we mentioned recently there was a intended price change arricing

[22:44]  Shai Khalifa: yes, please tell

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: those details i actually have now firm

[22:44]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 'listens'

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: so it doesn't effect mainland

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: this is only for Pc's

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: if you have them now

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: you keep your discounted renewal rates

[22:44]  Shai Khalifa: so if I order my second region today I'm still within the timeframe?

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: for multiple regions

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: you can order on current pricing right up to 31st May

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: and we'll bundle it

[22:44]  Dutch Bohemian is Offline

[22:44]  Sakai Openlife: and keep your pricing

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa: nice

[22:45]  Pantaiputih Korobase: until?

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: good question but we don't want to change it

[22:45]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, fine

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: this is in effect a way to reward you for being here

[22:45]  Shai Khalifa: um - one thought - as you start charging when the region is delivered, if I order today and you don't deliver till after 1 June, I still get the discount?

[22:45]  Sakai Openlife: by keeping the discounted renewal

[22:45]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, we are brave :-)))))))

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: yes you will Shai

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: the new pricing change

[22:46]  Elieluen Yareah: what of mainland regions?

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: actually doesn't increase

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: for 1 region

[22:46]  Pantaiputih Korobase: mianland not affected

[22:46]  Shai Khalifa: ok, ta

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: but we no longer change the price

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: based on qty

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: so 1 region is $75 a month

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: 2 is 2x $75

[22:46]  Sakai Openlife: etc etc

[22:46]  Shai Khalifa: kk

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: the only other part that will change

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: is the setup fee

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: setup actually cuts in half

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: to $75

[22:47]  Gino McAllister: nice

[22:47]  Linda McAllister: cool!

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: so it will be $75 setup

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: $75 a month

[22:47]  Shai Khalifa: so is that after the price hike or before?

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: regardless of how many regions you own

[22:47]  Sakai Openlife: this will be available in the next few days

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: but to bundle and get the lower monthly

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: you need to use the old pricing schedule

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: so we'll keep a link

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: on the buy page

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: for existing users

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: to get the grandfathered pricing

[22:48]  Shai Khalifa: ok, so if I hold off ordering my next region for a few days, I can get the reduced setup fee abut stay within the old monthly fee?

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: no

[22:48]  Sakai Openlife: unfortunately it needs to follow that older pricing model

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: (which pays off pretty quickly for you)

[22:49]  Shai Khalifa: :( oh well

[22:49]  Alicia Sautereau: 1 dumb question, when are you going to finish the website update? it looks like crap for new users with 2 different layouts for the past 3 weeks, allready had some newbs questioning about it aswell :x

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: yes i agree with you

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: it looks like crap

[22:49]  Pantaiputih Korobase: minor, alicia

[22:49]  Shai Khalifa: lol, me just trying to get REally cheap deal

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: we have been doing more and more pages

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: like poke

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: downloads

[22:49]  Sakai Openlife: change to all of the DL section actually

[22:49]  Alicia Sautereau: excuse my non existing politic :P

[22:49]  Elieluen Yareah: poke is still showing badly for firefox on mac

[22:50]  Pantaiputih Korobase: :-)

[22:50]  Alicia Sautereau: ok

[22:50]  Elieluen Yareah: dark writing on black background

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: ?

[22:50]  Pantaiputih Korobase: this has changed, eli

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: today?

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: i think it got an update yesterday

[22:50]  Alicia Sautereau: would have looked better if done it all on a devel site and moved in 1 go when ready :)

[22:50]  Elieluen Yareah: oh just had another look and it's changed

[22:50]  Shai Khalifa: I agree Ali

[22:50]  Elieluen Yareah: white writing on black background

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: yeah it would have been nice

[22:50]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: there's a lot of 'bits'

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: lol

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: to put it simple that need some pretty interesting work to support the new format

[22:51]  Alicia Sautereau: believe that :)

[22:51]  Sakai Openlife: but we will have about 90% of it within about a week

[22:52]  Elieluen Yareah: nice

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: I think there's just a few small sticky bits which we need to hear back from particular companies

[22:52]  Alicia Sautereau: cool, anyone asking after that week and i`ll tell you hired a part time kid for doing html slavery ^^

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[22:52]  Shai Khalifa: lmao Ali

[22:52]  Linda McAllister: lol

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: did anyone have any questions for me?

[22:52]  Alicia Sautereau: mind numbing work lol

[22:52]  Macphisto Angelus: any changes upcoming on mainland pricing?

[22:52]  Shai Khalifa: you getting enough coffee these days?

[22:52]  Sakai Openlife: no

[22:53]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: mainland stays

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: one tiny suggestion for mainland . . . if people abandon their land there or don't pay anymore or whatever and you claim it back, Sakai, it would be nice that you or someone from 3DX would terraform it back to the original or to some state where it is nice to look at again, i.e. undo the terraforming of the previous owner

[22:53]  Elieluen Yareah: i have a question about the implementation of llRotLookAt...when will it be?

[22:53]  Macphisto Angelus: ty

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: we only recently changes that pricing

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: YES -> that pant is actually part of the new renewal system

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, fine

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: the region will actually reload itself

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: and clear out

[22:53]  Pantaiputih Korobase: excellent

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: and setup an SSO for mainland

[22:53]  Sakai Openlife: so that we don't touch it

[22:54]  Elieluen Yareah: how many days grace do you get if you forget to pay on time?

[22:54]  Pantaiputih Korobase: waiting with joy to see it :-)

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: these SSO's will be listed pretty soon too

[22:54]  Linda McAllister: where is my inventory :P

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: so that ppl can find available mainland easily

[22:54]  Linda McAllister: lol

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: 3

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: (not a looong time)

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: but

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: you can also pay ahead

[22:54]  Mayi Lowey: hmm yes, im having trouble with the adding estatemanager -is this also corrected with the 0710 (PC)

[22:54]  Sakai Openlife: even in credits

[22:54]  Alicia Sautereau: just don`t touch my sim while i slowly get back to positive :)

[22:54]  Elieluen Yareah: yah i've paid up till june now :)

[22:54]  Grimley Graves: try another chair Dianne

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: there's another SSO

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: that's not turned on yet

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: for mainland owners

[22:55]  Alicia Sautereau: hey dianne :)

[22:55]  Linda McAllister: Dianne! heya :))

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: what it does

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: is tells you

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: when you're renewal is due

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: and how much it is

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: and you can pay

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: and see it update live

[22:55]  Pantaiputih Korobase: good function

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: on the renewal prim

[22:55]  Elieluen Yareah: great

[22:55]  Sakai Openlife: we're going to do a PC version of the same thing too

[22:55]  Pantaiputih Korobase: do we have the choice with credits or PayPal with this function?

[22:55]  Mayi Lowey: yay

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: for the in world renewal

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: only credits

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: otherwise use the website

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: for $

[22:56]  Shai Khalifa: ok, so if we use the website, it will update the prim?

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: not yet automatically

[22:56]  Sakai Openlife: but when the system is finished it will

[22:56]  Shai Khalifa: cool

[22:56]  Pantaiputih Korobase: uffff, fine

[22:57]  Elieluen Yareah: any prgress on the perms problem with adding notecards to prims?

[22:57]  Shai Khalifa: the Clear texture issue is still around I see - but I think I 've discovered when it's prevalent

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: please tell me someone has... sent us a ticket for it?

[22:57]  Debbie Trilling: when Shai?

[22:57]  Elieluen Yareah: for which?

[22:57]  Elieluen Yareah: the clear texture prob?

[22:57]  Sakai Openlife: your notecard problem

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: texture

[22:58]  Elieluen Yareah: yah i did

[22:58]  Shai Khalifa: it seems to be when you get that "not quite loaded in on login/tp" issue

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: i think you get a fix

[22:58]  Elieluen Yareah: you passed it to the team but nothing done yet

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: in the next update

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: there's some pretty big changes being tested on monday

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: regarding images

[22:58]  Sakai Openlife: hopefully to make it in the next update

[22:58]  Shai Khalifa: same as you get the unuthenticated for transactions message

[22:58]  Alicia Sautereau: inventory - we all have items that will just not rez on some sims and on others that item has no problem but another item wouldn`t rez, any fixes to that? the item list becomes bigger and bigger and as filed in the ticket, i even have an item that the database can`t even see

[22:58]  Debbie Trilling: on the notecard...altho' the perms look wrong in Inventory, when you actually use it..it seems to be correcy

[22:58]  Mayi Lowey: yes thats annoying thet message'

[22:59]  Debbie Trilling: correct

[22:59]  Debbie Trilling: seems to be a cosmetic problem at this point

[22:59]  Elieluen Yareah: no it's not

[22:59]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, support does not work quite well - even if I myself edit a ticket and tell you - the ticket can be closed as all is fine - no one closes the ticket

[22:59]  Elieluen Yareah: my script can't read the notecard

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: we had an issue during the week where our replies weren't turning up on your tickets

[22:59]  Debbie Trilling: I use many many notecards and scripts reading them; and do not have a problem

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: but we have been getting them and reading them

[22:59]  Sakai Openlife: (and doing things

[22:59]  Pantaiputih Korobase: should be eanbled to close the ticket yourself

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: you would like that?

[23:00]  Debbie Trilling: my personal experience is that since 9c it is cosmetic

[23:00]  Alicia Sautereau: or delete old closed tickets

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: we can't delete

[23:00]  Shai Khalifa: yes please, and open it again if necessary

[23:00]  Pantaiputih Korobase: if my ticket topic is not relevant anymore: yes!

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: but we can change the function

[23:00]  Sakai Openlife: so you can close it

[23:00]  Alicia Sautereau: no, the end user to delete their closed tickets

[23:01]  Alicia Sautereau: like i don`t need to see 3 sim restart requests in my tickets, rather be able to delete them when they`re processed

[23:01]  Elieluen Yareah: ok so not sure what to do about my notecard reading problem...when i try to even open it once it's lost it's perms i can't

[23:01]  Shai Khalifa: I've been tallking to a load of SL users lately - with the change to the way they're doing the adult/non-adult stuff and new pricing there are a heap of them leaving - we need to be ready for it

[23:01]  Debbie Trilling: ...did you re-create them all?

[23:01]  Elieluen Yareah: recreate the notecard?

[23:01]  Debbie Trilling: yes

[23:02]  Debbie Trilling: as Sakai said at last meeting

[23:02]  Elieluen Yareah: yah i did once but no avail...perhaps i shoudl try it again?

[23:02]  Debbie Trilling: I dont have a problem, so I perhaps yes

[23:02]  Elieluen Yareah: ok thaks debiie :)

[23:02]  Gumby Roffo: Pics are up from the Taiwan trip for those that want a look

[23:02]  Gumby Roffo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gumby_roffo/sets/72157617838714994/

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: when we getting a basic kit for new avis at the login place

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: ah yes i saw our office in that flickr

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: lol

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: and me!

[23:03]  Elieluen Yareah: ok so while all's quiet....does nyone knwo whne we will have llRotLookAt?

[23:03]  Pantaiputih Korobase: as long as it is not looking better than us :-))))

[23:03]  Gumby Roffo: I didn't point you out

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: i don't know about llRotLookAt

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: can we have a web live board with regions to go to available for newcomers?

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: unfortunately

[23:03]  Shai Khalifa: etc, etc

[23:03]  Sakai Openlife: (as in when)

[23:03]  Elieluen Yareah: is it a big function to implement?

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: hard to say as it would just need someone to look at

[23:04]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: could be small could be big

[23:04]  Elieluen Yareah: no pun intened

[23:04]  Sakai Openlife: (I'd only be guessing atm)(

[23:04]  Debbie Trilling: llRotLookAt is being tested in a OS truck, someone submitted a patch recently, but I dont beleive it has yet been released....is still in testing I believe

[23:04]  Elieluen Yareah: ok

[23:04]  Elieluen Yareah: really not a biggy was just making sme spotlights the other day

[23:05]  Mayi Lowey: The functio where i can allow a specific user to edit my things, when does that work ???? really needs that function !

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: well nothings impossible

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: via friends

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: hugs Mayi

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: ?

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: yes

[23:05]  Gumby Roffo: you mean for the tracking spotlights

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: mmm maybe Padre can squeeze that in somewhere

[23:05]  Mayi Lowey: yes but it dosent work, Sakai ((((

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: when can we use all the things in Friends???????

[23:05]  Elieluen Yareah: yah gumby...i've been using llSetRot instead

[23:05]  Shai Khalifa: see on map and allow edit

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: I'll let you guys know a little of the major stuff going on

[23:05]  Sakai Openlife: at the moment

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: at least the broad plans

[23:06]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 'listens'

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: for the next 2 months

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: we have obviously groups

[23:06]  Shai Khalifa: allow edit will make life for co-builders squillions easier

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: that we just mentioned

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: but the larger ones for us

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: is WMS

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: (automated global control)

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: also allows you to restart your own region

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: handles updates by itself too

[23:06]  Sakai Openlife: etc

[23:06]  Shai Khalifa: yayyy

[23:06]  Pantaiputih Korobase: you want to retire?

[23:07]  Linda McAllister: I wish I could edit Gino his prims, as we work as a team, that would bepossible in a group?

[23:07]  Shai Khalifa: lol, no he's gotta do groups

[23:07]  Debbie Trilling: lol Panta

[23:07]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hehe

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: and also a major framework shift

[23:07]  Elieluen Yareah: that will be available for mainland residents?

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: where we implement the new inventory service

[23:07]  Shai Khalifa: so can we start the chant for Edit rights, Edit rights

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: and asset service

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: so these are pretty big

[23:07]  Linda McAllister: sakai?

[23:07]  Sakai Openlife: but they are littered with other things as well

[23:07]  Linda McAllister: scroll back :P

[23:07]  Gino McAllister: lol

[23:08]  Shai Khalifa: like Edit rights in Friends

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: such as more physics things yes friends

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: groups

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: im stuff

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: and others

[23:08]  Gino McAllister: YAY!!

[23:08]  Shai Khalifa: so Edit rights will be turned on in this update?

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: generally we have some pretty major parts

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: that we work on

[23:08]  Sakai Openlife: along with tons of minor components

[23:08]  Pantaiputih Korobase: shoes?

[23:08]  Linda McAllister: on the right spot ;)

[23:08]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: after we've knocked over these really large tasks

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: I think you'll find a lot of tuning

[23:09]  Elieluen Yareah: actually that's another prob i've been having is attachments remembering their positions

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: and little bits and pieces can get tackled much faster

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: and does the physics stuff knock over the broken ankle syndrome?

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: yes

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: that's in next weke

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: my legs thank you

[23:09]  Alicia Sautereau: sakai, may i ask a rather personal question that some wonder about?

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: assuming Tuesday's tests are all ok

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: sure

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: lol

[23:09]  Sakai Openlife: yes I'm a man

[23:09]  Elieluen Yareah: rofl

[23:09]  Shai Khalifa: roflmao

[23:09]  Pantaiputih Korobase: hhe

[23:09]  Alicia Sautereau: how the heck are you financing this?

[23:09]  Linda McAllister: lol

[23:10]  Elieluen Yareah: are you really ironman in diguise though?

[23:10]  Alicia Sautereau: as alot of us are also in backlog tier aswell

[23:10]  Pantaiputih Korobase: with credits

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: this isn't my first company

[23:10]  Gino McAllister: :)

[23:10]  Mayi Lowey: drugdealing :-)))

[23:10]  Alicia Sautereau: lol

[23:10]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol

[23:10]  Linda McAllister: hehehhe

[23:10]  Gino McAllister: XD

[23:10]  Mayi Lowey: naa not noce

[23:10]  Sakai Openlife: I have about 10 yrs in business

[23:10]  Mayi Lowey: sorry

[23:10]  Shai Khalifa: people smuggling - they're not just avatars

[23:10]  Linda McAllister: so not Bill Grim ;)

[23:10]  Gino McAllister: lol

[23:11]  Linda McAllister: ya know Gates :P

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: simply put i guess we're financed well

[23:11]  Elieluen Yareah: actually he's really Michelle Obama

[23:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: is he?

[23:11]  Elieluen Yareah: yah

[23:11]  Alicia Sautereau: good, i won`t pay tier then ^^

[23:11]  Gino McAllister: lol

[23:11]  Elieluen Yareah: sorry i just had to tell

[23:11]  Sakai Openlife: but we don't step outside the budget provided by users

[23:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: oooo, I did not know that

[23:11]  Shai Khalifa: you mean she's really an Aussie?

[23:11]  Linda McAllister: its a HE

[23:11]  Elieluen Yareah: lol yah

[23:11]  Alicia Sautereau: ok :)

[23:11]  Pantaiputih Korobase: rofl

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: for example if we doubled in size you would probably see a double in size for developers

[23:12]  Pantaiputih Korobase: michelle upperarama?

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: and support staff etc

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: it's all priced accordingly to run the service

[23:12]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[23:12]  Gino McAllister: I'm gonna make commercials movies...

[23:12]  Shai Khalifa: ok, let's get more people in here so you can get more staff so that we can get Edit rights in Friends

[23:12]  Shai Khalifa: lol

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: yes please

[23:12]  Sakai Openlife: I still make my own coffee too

[23:12]  Mayi Lowey: YAY

[23:12]  Pantaiputih Korobase: yes, more staff, more residents!

[23:12]  Elieluen Yareah: i've been pondering the idea of doing an rl virtual worlds convention

[23:12]  Linda McAllister: Idrag everybody over :)

[23:12]  Elieluen Yareah: that would be awesome

[23:13]  Shai Khalifa: more residents = more staff

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: yes very much so

[23:13]  Pantaiputih Korobase: less lost prims in the sky

[23:13]  Shai Khalifa: now as I said earler - lot of SL people making the leap as we speak

[23:13]  Shai Khalifa: we really need to do something about the welcome area

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: so that's pretty much the way we've taken the approach to it

[23:13]  Elieluen Yareah: my Hand Land friends aren't coming over just yet but they will

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: even though there may be 3DX behind it

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: we push as hard as the users do

[23:13]  Grimley Graves: so how much of an effect has the economy coming on line had on population?

[23:13]  Sakai Openlife: woth everything you guys give us

[23:14]  Gino McAllister: rofl

[23:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: most of my SL 'frineds' don'T even know about an alternative

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: the economy has been good

[23:14]  Pantaiputih Korobase: *'friends'

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: we definately see it heating up

[23:14]  Alicia Sautereau: ning is abit larger then LL, but even LL caved afterwards =)

[23:14]  Sakai Openlife: every week

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: the next step is putting up rewards and exchange

[23:15]  Grimley Graves: it should make the population increase

[23:15]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, fever feels different, sakai

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: we'll give you options outside of just $

[23:15]  Sakai Openlife: like Openlifey stuff

[23:15]  Shai Khalifa: I just want to say here that I distanced myself from that association as I did not support any lambasting of Sakai or OLG - it had never been my intention or my position

[23:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: what is lambasting?

[23:16]  Gumby Roffo: Alicia , the Ning issue is in hand and cant be discussed any further publically

[23:16]  Elieluen Yareah: i really have no idea what nayone is talkign about anymore

[23:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: sorry, me not native

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: you know regardless of whatever is going on in some arena's

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: our focus is (staff)

[23:16]  Shai Khalifa: slander, vengeance, generally nasty actions

[23:16]  Sakai Openlife: is simply to get you the best virtual world possible

[23:16]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, got it, shai

[23:16]  Macphisto Angelus: treat it like the turd in the road it is in and walk around it. :)

[23:16]  Debbie Trilling: ..and my poor hair, having so many lies said about it...made it stand on end

[23:17]  Elieluen Yareah: this all sounds very juicy...where can i read about it?

[23:17]  Pantaiputih Korobase: in your script, eli :-)))))

[23:17]  Alicia Sautereau: gumby, i`m working with ning aswell, tho slow progress lol

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: It can be quite confidently said that what we use is not opensim once apon a time it was

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: but not any more

[23:17]  Alicia Sautereau: have had a ticket open for over a month

[23:17]  Sakai Openlife: we probably don't follow the same paths

[23:17]  Gumby Roffo: Im not talking tickets

[23:18]  Macphisto Angelus: And I will say web based groups have been in the works since I joined almost a year ago..

[23:18]  Shai Khalifa: Sakai - one suggestion - you haven't done a tech interview for a while, why don't you do a couple to provide some current info out there in techworld?

[23:18]  Sakai Openlife: mmm - we might do soonish

[23:18]  Shai Khalifa: good

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: from 3DX's point of view

[23:19]  Gumby Roffo: Well Thanks for the update Sakai, Im off to paly some tests

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: we don't want to go too hard into the limelight just yet

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: we have plenty of things we'd like to get right first

[23:19]  Shai Khalifa: cos then things might be able to move forward instead of always looing backward as some of these dissenters do

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: timing is pretty important

[23:19]  Elieluen Yareah: yah good idea sakai

[23:19]  Sakai Openlife: if you want to get into the large numbers of users

[23:20]  Pantaiputih Korobase: absolutely, yes

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: premature

[23:20]  Pantaiputih Korobase: timing

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: and you just won't get the result you hoped for

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: too late and you miss the boat

[23:20]  Shai Khalifa: that sort of thing can be espoused in an interview though

[23:20]  Shai Khalifa: if it's done right

[23:20]  Pantaiputih Korobase: too early and the boat is not yet there :-)

[23:20]  Elieluen Yareah: well 3dx has time on it's side i think as the other grids aren't as evolved yet anyway

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: but we do have something coming up

[23:20]  Sakai Openlife: that will be worth talking about

[23:21]  Linda McAllister: ohhh tell :)

[23:21]  Shai Khalifa: ? :)

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: from a tech standpoint

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: 'listens'

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: we mentioned it on the forums

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: that we would talk about it if someone asked

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: SSO trees?

[23:21]  Elieluen Yareah: i'll ask but i have no idea what i'm asking

[23:21]  Pantaiputih Korobase: or SSO shoes?

[23:21]  Gino McAllister: lol

[23:21]  Linda McAllister: forum is big :P

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: we have a concept we made a little over a month ago

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: that we'll wait for WMS

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: to be ready to implement

[23:21]  Sakai Openlife: called 'slots'

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: (bad name

[23:22]  Dawny Cinquetti: hihihi

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: we'll think of something better

[23:22]  Elieluen Yareah: sounds like zyngo

[23:22]  Dawny Cinquetti: .

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: actually what it does

[23:22]  Linda McAllister: no like sluts :P

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: is allows you to choose

[23:22]  Pantaiputih Korobase: if I hear the name slot, I fell my plane is delayed

[23:22]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: which slot you want to use

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: on your PC

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: ie

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: slot one may be one build

[23:22]  Slot Machine v5.1 whispers: Left-Click on the Slot Machine to register/activate it.

[23:22]  Slot Machine v5.1 whispers: Left-Click on the Slot Machine to register/activate it.

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: a theme park for example

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: then change to slot 2

[23:22]  Sakai Openlife: and you can use your tropical island build

[23:22]  Grimley Graves: sort of like partitions?

[23:23]  Elieluen Yareah: oh so you can load different sim designs into the one sim?

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: basically you can 'flip' the whole region

[23:23]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, you want to reduce the server load for ever changing actions? sounds interesting

[23:23]  Elieluen Yareah: OMG!!!

[23:23]  Linda McAllister: that would be AWSOME!

[23:23]  Elieluen Yareah: what a bloody awesome idea!!!

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: so you could stand there

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: and go hold on

[23:23]  Gino McAllister: that would be cool for RP

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: we need a my beachside resort

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: and flip it

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: to a beachside resort you amde

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: made

[23:23]  Delilah Bingyi: fantastic

[23:23]  Shai Khalifa: omg - amazing

[23:23]  Sakai Openlife: it takes about 30-40 seconds at the moment

[23:24]  Debbie Trilling: backing up and restoring prims and scripts?

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: to complete

[23:24]  Pantaiputih Korobase: cool

[23:24]  Linda McAllister: omg omg...do so Sakai

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: so it's not instant

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: but we'll keeping working on it

[23:24]  Shai Khalifa: so we could have full ability to back up an entire build

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: mm you don't get a copy

[23:24]  Elieluen Yareah: i totally love this idea

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: everything still lives on our end

[23:24]  Mayi Lowey: yay, but dose it has to be an entire region - not just a percel ??????

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: but you can have 1 'slot' for working on things

[23:24]  Elieluen Yareah: i'd love to be able to get a copy though

[23:24]  Sakai Openlife: and one slot for doing whatever else

[23:24]  Shai Khalifa: but it would still p rovide a backup that we have access to

[23:25]  Mayi Lowey: pArcel

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: yes in a way it would

[23:25]  Elieluen Yareah: its kinda like 'Space' on OSX

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: we also have a semi working 'version' thing

[23:25]  Elieluen Yareah: Spaces*

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: the idea

[23:25]  Linda McAllister: would be great for RP...make a total diff region :)

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: is that you can have slots and versions

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: (limited to 3 so far)

[23:25]  Sakai Openlife: but we can't use it until the WMS system is ready

[23:26]  Pantaiputih Korobase: could you pass me the 'confused' box again, mac? I need to think

[23:26]  Shai Khalifa: omg - that means I can build forever and not get bored

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: (otherwise it's manual)

[23:26]  Linda McAllister: what stand WMS for?

[23:26]  Macphisto Angelus: lol Pant

[23:26]  Elieluen Yareah: rofl Shai

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: worker management service

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: (not pretty)(

[23:26]  Linda McAllister: kk

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: but we'll have to obviously come up with a name for this thing

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: cos slots sux

[23:26]  Mayi Lowey: but STILL an entire region, and can ppl be on that region while shifting )) ?

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: we might even just use scene flipping

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: or something

[23:26]  Elieluen Yareah: call it Parallel dimensions

[23:26]  Sakai Openlife: yes you can be on the region

[23:26]  Macphisto Angelus: enviornments

[23:27]  Linda McAllister: prim manament service?...soounds better

[23:27]  Shai Khalifa: pms - lol

[23:27]  Elieluen Yareah: rofl

[23:27]  Shai Khalifa: Scenes?

[23:27]  Linda McAllister: yea :)))

[23:27]  Elieluen Yareah: Scenes is a good one

[23:27]  Mayi Lowey: Holo-something

[23:27]  Linda McAllister: object? lol

[23:27]  Elieluen Yareah: EnviroFlip

[23:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: to me it sounds liek speed

[23:27]  Sakai Openlife: but there's plenty of pretty kool things turning up

[23:27]  Shai Khalifa: I was just using the analogy of changing scenes on stage

[23:27]  Pantaiputih Korobase: like

[23:27]  Elieluen Yareah: iFlip

[23:28]  Cae Diesel: if need somebody for working whit spanish comunity or portugues

[23:28]  Elieluen Yareah: then for parcel flips you can call it iFlip nano

[23:28]  Cae Diesel: pls

[23:28]  Cae Diesel: im

[23:28]  Cae Diesel: :)

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: we just have some large focus points at the moment to get through

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: so that we can scale well

[23:28]  Shai Khalifa: lol Eli

[23:28]  Sakai Openlife: and automate a good group of things

[23:28]  Elieluen Yareah: hehehe

[23:28]  Mayi Lowey: iFlipnano i really like

[23:29]  Shai Khalifa: ok, so we need to get more residents to buy land and STAY - so that sakai can get more staff to work on the iFlip/Scenes/Slots thingie

[23:29]  Alicia Sautereau: is the rolling restart nearing soon? :)

[23:29]  Elieluen Yareah: well apple may have a problem with it but who cares right?

[23:29]  Pantaiputih Korobase: lol, eli

[23:29]  Sakai Openlife: we have rolling update instead today

[23:29]  Alicia Sautereau: ah ok

[23:29]  Alicia Sautereau: can`t wait to test the inventory lol

[23:29]  Sakai Openlife: but we're not putting a date on this flip/slot/i whatever

[23:29]  Sakai Openlife: lol thing

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: just that we will implement after WMS is ready

[23:30]  Elieluen Yareah: lol

[23:30]  Mayi Lowey: Flipper

[23:30]  Shai Khalifa: starts singing

[23:30]  Elieluen Yareah: well whoever came up with the idea should be given a medal

[23:30]  Sakai Openlife: versioning still needs some work and the web part of it needs to get finished

[23:30]  Grimley Graves: gotta fly folks, see ys

[23:30]  Gumby Roffo: kk Grims

[23:30]  Macphisto Angelus: take care Grim

[23:30]  Elieluen Yareah: it eill certainly require a great deal of space ont ehservers though if everyone has 3 versions of their sim

[23:30]  Shai Khalifa: omg, I can have the before and after of the cataclysm on Phaedran

[23:30]  Alicia Sautereau: SI access?

[23:30]  Shai Khalifa: whoot

[23:31]  Linda McAllister: hugzzz grimmie :)

[23:31]  Grimley Graves: POOF

[23:31]  Elieluen Yareah: cya grimley

[23:31]  Gitfinger Hotspur: cay grim

[23:31]  Alicia Sautereau: bye grimley

[23:31]  Gino McAllister: tc grimmie :)

[23:31]  Sakai Openlife: ah yes I heard from Pasquale yesterday

[23:31]  Elieluen Yareah: yah SHai....that would be awesome

[23:31]  Sakai Openlife: (Si)

[23:31]  Sakai Openlife: no Friday i heard from him

[23:31]  Alicia Sautereau: yesterday :)

[23:31]  Pantaiputih Korobase: well, if I can flipper 3 times, I just need one sim........... instead of 10

[23:31]  Elieluen Yareah: who is Pasquale?

[23:31]  Sakai Openlife: I think we should be able to say much more this week

[23:31]  Sakai Openlife: (sunday for me) hehe

[23:31]  Alicia Sautereau: uhm nm

[23:31]  Alicia Sautereau: yea now here aswell lol

[23:32]  Alicia Sautereau: grr still 9d ;x

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: when your region is updated

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: it will show 0.7.1.0r

[23:32]  Linda McAllister: and the viewer is online next week?

[23:32]  Pantaiputih Korobase: or invalid .-))))

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: i would expect so

[23:32]  Macphisto Angelus: :D

[23:32]  Sakai Openlife: I think everyone might get some pleasant suprises in that too

[23:33]  Alicia Sautereau: 034, should have been upgraded 10 hours ago ^^

[23:33]  Linda McAllister: cant wait! :P

[23:33]  Shai Khalifa: and I can tell all the SL refugees who ask that SI may be available 'soon'

[23:33]  Sakai Openlife: I know Klee's been workin hard on that

[23:33]  Sakai Openlife: yes it definately will be available soon

[23:33]  Linda McAllister: also for mac?

[23:33]  Alicia Sautereau: do you need a dutch download mirror?

[23:33]  Elieluen Yareah: oh that's who Pasquale is

[23:33]  Sakai Openlife: Pasquale from Si is keen to make it work

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: we actually just put up another service

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: for european users

[23:34]  Elieluen Yareah: atm i only have SI for windows which i run unde Parallels

[23:34]  Cae Diesel: you need a spanish or portugues mirro?

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: to get the viewer

[23:34]  Alicia Sautereau: ok

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: u can see it on the downloads page

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: right column

[23:34]  Shai Khalifa: same Eli

[23:34]  Mayi Lowey: ok, nightynight all -have a familythingy tomm ealy :-)

[23:34]  Pantaiputih Korobase: night mayi

[23:34]  Elieluen Yareah: ni ni Mayi

[23:34]  Linda McAllister: see ya mayi :)

[23:34]  Alicia Sautereau: doesn`t says the location

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: cya Mayi

[23:34]  Mayi Lowey: :-)

[23:34]  Gino McAllister: ni ni Mayi

[23:34]  Sakai Openlife: top of the column

[23:35]  Alicia Sautereau: only europe

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: right is US/europe

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: left is US/Asia

[23:35]  Cae Diesel: and sur amarica ??

[23:35]  Cae Diesel: lol

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: both are actually in the US but on opposite sides

[23:35]  Alicia Sautereau: horrobly slow tbh lol

[23:35]  Alicia Sautereau: the europe 1

[23:35]  Sakai Openlife: from what we've heard the european one is working well for euro users

[23:35]  Cae Diesel: lol ignore sur america ........

[23:36]  Sakai Openlife: hmm interesting

[23:36]  Gitfinger Hotspur: yep its faster

[23:36]  Cae Diesel: brazil big market

[23:36]  Alicia Sautereau: let me do a test from my server as download, it`s on a superfast pipe =)

[23:36]  Linda McAllister: I never got probs with downloading

[23:37]  Elieluen Yareah: neither

[23:37]  Alicia Sautereau: 1.21Mbit :x

[23:37]  Shai Khalifa: me neither

[23:37]  Alicia Sautereau: (1.18 MB/s)

[23:37]  Alicia Sautereau: lol

[23:37]  Alicia Sautereau: sorry :)

[23:37]  Sakai Openlife: we're in Asia (Taiwan)

[23:37]  Sakai Openlife: and seem to get everything pretty quick too

[23:37]  Sakai Openlife: generally something around 2Mb (20Mbit)

[23:38]  Linda McAllister: I have a wooden modem :)

[23:38]  Linda McAllister: windup :)

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: hehe

[23:38]  Elieluen Yareah: can't wait for the new broadband rollout in Aus

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: ah another aussie

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: :)

[23:38]  Elieluen Yareah: :)

[23:38]  Shai Khalifa: yeah, just another 8 years

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: I was in Brisbane

[23:38]  Alicia Sautereau: i`m putting it in my html folder, going to IM you the url

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: until last year

[23:38]  Sakai Openlife: when we came here to start this development office

[23:38]  Gino McAllister: well I am off to bed my friends,.. need to be up early tomorrow

[23:38]  Gumby Roffo: Yes FTTP, it might even happen here in the middle of nowhere

[23:39]  Elieluen Yareah: yah speeds are better in Taiwan right?

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: good info Sakai! :)

[23:39]  Gino McAllister: ni ni everybody :)

[23:39]  Pantaiputih Korobase: no kangaroos

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: thanks for the meeting

[23:39]  Elieluen Yareah: ni ni

[23:39]  Dawny Cinquetti: trusten

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: truste :)

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: byeeeee

[23:39]  Shai Khalifa: cya

[23:39]  Dawny Cinquetti: ooOOOO ik zie een bil ^^

[23:39]  Elieluen Yareah: for some reason they are starting with Tasssie first

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: sexy he :P

[23:39]  Dawny Cinquetti: heheheh

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: hehehe

[23:39]  Linda McAllister: doei!

[23:39]  Dawny Cinquetti: doei

[23:39]  Pantaiputih Korobase: iooooooooooooo

[23:40]  Alicia Sautereau: doei lin :)

[23:40]  Dawny Cinquetti: hugz

[23:40]  Elieluen Yareah: oh woot! antas has joined us

[23:40]  Shai Khalifa: hey, we Aussies in force here at this meeting

[23:40]  Linda McAllister: "))

[23:40]  Elieluen Yareah: qantas*

[23:40]  Shai Khalifa: Sakai, Eli, Gumbby and me

[23:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: seemingly :-)

[23:40]  Shai Khalifa: yay

[23:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: even a kangaroo is present :-)

[23:40]  Alicia Sautereau: only now the dutch have left ;)

[23:40]  Gumby Roffo gave you kangaroo.

[23:40]  Elieluen Yareah: klee left?

[23:40]  Shai Khalifa: cool

[23:40]  Pantaiputih Korobase: stepping on broadband wires

[23:41]  Alicia Sautereau: linda and gino

[23:41]  Alicia Sautereau: me

[23:41]  Titi Wopat: thanks hun

[23:41]  Alicia Sautereau: dawny

[23:41]  Alicia Sautereau: klee

[23:41]  Elieluen Yareah: oh thanks Gumgy :0

[23:41]  Elieluen Yareah: gumby

[23:41]  Sakai Openlife: guys I actually need to go

[23:41]  Sakai Openlife: we have a few things to get sorted for this update

[23:41]  Pantaiputih Korobase: ok, a brief summary?

[23:41]  Alicia Sautereau: yea updates :P

[23:41]  Dawny Cinquetti: yawns and is glad :P

[23:41]  Shai Khalifa: lol - you gotta put your hand up

[23:41]  Sakai Openlife: but it was nice to meet you all

[23:41]  Sakai Openlife: I do enjoy these meetings

[23:41]  Elieluen Yareah: ok well thanks for the meeting Sakai and for the hard work