I'll be at these in spirit Abe - unless the cat or the weather has me awake an unable to go back to sleep in the wee small hours of the morning...

Maybe some day you can run one in the European morning on a weekend (at a reasonable hour of course), then I can get there?

lol - hope they go well for you my friend. Remember that "from little things, big things grow" so if your gatherings are small to start with - it's still a start.

:)

-Our sim is combatible with elves. They might be frowned but that's just it.

-What's capped here is power levels of characters. Just for sake of avoiding powergaming. I think this rules out dragons in most cases.

-And yes you can come if you wouldn't be terribly interested in high advetures or such. Playing out walk-ons or supportive roles is actually a great favour to others and fun way to see what's going on.

The area consists two distinct villages from opposite kingdoms. They are in peace but have their own internal problems. The world is low fantasy or well dressed high fantasy allowing elves to arrive to forest with some sort of magical rift. (Just don't tell about it to locals, they might think you have had too many beers.)

Other things I'm about to offer is our own group meetings and solo guests for people interested. Those will be informed later on. Written character is one thing that I actually do too.

Times:

 18.sep 6pm (starting out about 5pm would be good later, no?)

16.oct "

13.nov "

11.dec "

[2010/08/15 19:23] Abraham Ferryhill:Grid hicckuped?

[2010/08/15 19:23] Grimley Graves:just that region

[2010/08/15 19:23] Abraham Ferryhill:No, logins were offline for a moment

[2010/08/15 19:23] Grimley Graves: allof Eli's regions do that

[2010/08/15 19:23] Abraham Ferryhill:lol

[2010/08/15 19:23] Grimley Graves:always crash me out, not sure what he does

[2010/08/15 19:24] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll tell him about that

[2010/08/15 19:25] Oak Hazelnut: o hoim here

[2010/08/15 19:25] Abraham Ferryhill:wb

[2010/08/15 19:25] Oak Hazelnut: atlast loool

[2010/08/15 19:25] Oak Hazelnut: isthe old moose tiny here

[2010/08/15 19:25] Grimley Graves:nope, offline

[2010/08/15 19:25] Oak Hazelnut: ahh

[2010/08/15 19:25] Oak Hazelnut: shemust of crashed as well

[2010/08/15 19:25] Abraham Ferryhill:I had trouble connecting for a while

[2010/08/15 19:26] Grimley Graves: Ididn't as long as I didn't try Thala Sur

[2010/08/15 19:26] Oak Hazelnut: ylsit shows everyne online lol

[2010/08/15 19:26] Oak Hazelnut: imglad it wasnt me lol

[2010/08/15 19:27] Grimley Graves:friends list is really inaccurate

[2010/08/15 19:27] Oak Hazelnut: grimget the acorns out lool

[2010/08/15 19:27] Oak Hazelnut: nicefire to roast themo on lol

[2010/08/15 19:27] Oak Hazelnut: arewe sitting

[2010/08/15 19:27] Grimley Graves:stand sitting

[2010/08/15 19:27] Grimley Graves:stitting

[2010/08/15 19:27] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 19:27] Abraham Ferryhill:I have picture for you

[2010/08/15 19:28] Abraham Ferryhill:Because all this hardship...

[2010/08/15 19:28] Oak Hazelnut: haveibeen to borderwatch before

[2010/08/15 19:28] Oak Hazelnut: nicecastle

[2010/08/15 19:28] Abraham Ferryhill:Prob not

[2010/08/15 19:28] Oak Hazelnut: niceboat

[2010/08/15 19:28] Grimley Graves:it's a nice region

[2010/08/15 19:28] Oak Hazelnut: itssmall lool

[2010/08/15 19:28] Abraham Ferryhill:This is our shopping mall actually

[2010/08/15 19:29] Oak Hazelnut:whoops

[2010/08/15 19:29] Abraham Ferryhill:Sort of off-game area

[2010/08/15 19:29] Grimley Graves:size doesn't matter Oak LOL

[2010/08/15 19:29] Abraham Ferryhill:Ok, shall we start then?

[2010/08/15 19:29] Oak Hazelnut: looolthats not true loooolslaps grim

[2010/08/15 19:29] Oak Hazelnut: ok

[2010/08/15 19:29] Grimley Graves: iknow

[2010/08/15 19:29] Grimley Graves: yes

[2010/08/15 19:29] Oak Hazelnut: shametinys great at t rp

[2010/08/15 19:30] Abraham Ferryhill:Is Panta coming?

[2010/08/15 19:30] Oak Hazelnut: hesnot online

[2010/08/15 19:30] Grimley Graves: yeshe is

[2010/08/15 19:30] Grimley Graves:just sent a TP

[2010/08/15 19:30] Oak Hazelnut: oh

[2010/08/15 19:31] Grimley Graves: ithink

[2010/08/15 19:31] Oak Hazelnut: heheyour soon fin d out

[2010/08/15 19:31] Abraham Ferryhill:asset server is having some sort of trouble. I tried to upload apicture for you.

[2010/08/15 19:31] Oak Hazelnut: yepinkow its stopping people loggin in

[2010/08/15 19:31] Abraham Ferryhill:I did make a cellar here just because people get dropping to sea

[2010/08/15 19:32] Abraham Ferryhill:Panta go left and stairs up.

[2010/08/15 19:32] Oak Hazelnut: grimyou might find some friends down there

[2010/08/15 19:32] Oak Hazelnut: alldead

[2010/08/15 19:32] Grimley Graves: lol

[2010/08/15 19:32] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:32] Abraham Ferryhill:We have two graveyards...

[2010/08/15 19:32] Oak Hazelnut:zombie dog lol

[2010/08/15 19:32] Oak Hazelnut: ooh

[2010/08/15 19:33] Oak Hazelnut: brideof grim lol

[2010/08/15 19:33] Abraham Ferryhill:Welcome all.

[2010/08/15 19:33] PantaiputihKorobase: ufff, that was hard work

[2010/08/15 19:33] Abraham Ferryhill:Asset server is showing it's fingers to me but we'll manage

[2010/08/15 19:34] Abraham Ferryhill:Welcome all to talk event. Today I'm going to give participants voicefirst by asking what's your definition of roleplaying?

[2010/08/15 19:34] Grimley Graves: badgrid day

[2010/08/15 19:34] Abraham Ferryhill:It would be great if those who feel they know less would start.

[2010/08/15 19:34] Abraham Ferryhill:That would be Panta right? ;)

[2010/08/15 19:34] PantaiputihKorobase: lol, yes, most probably

[2010/08/15 19:34] PantaiputihKorobase: should be to take a role and play it

[2010/08/15 19:34] PantaiputihKorobase: defined by either oneself or another one

[2010/08/15 19:35] Abraham Ferryhill:Thank you :)

[2010/08/15 19:35] PantaiputihKorobase: within a defined frame

[2010/08/15 19:35] Abraham Ferryhill:sorry didn't mean to stop you

[2010/08/15 19:35] PantaiputihKorobase: of abilities, tasks etc

[2010/08/15 19:35] PantaiputihKorobase: ok, stopping now :-))

[2010/08/15 19:35] Abraham Ferryhill:Oak would you care to be next?

[2010/08/15 19:36] PantaiputihKorobase: may be he took the role of silence :-)

[2010/08/15 19:36] Grimley Graves: Oakis sleeping

[2010/08/15 19:36] Grimley Graves: lol

[2010/08/15 19:36] Abraham Ferryhill:maybe crashed again?

[2010/08/15 19:36] Grimley Graves:could be

[2010/08/15 19:36] PantaiputihKorobase: his face is grey to me anyway, wht does that mean?

[2010/08/15 19:37] Grimley Graves: badacorns?

[2010/08/15 19:37] PantaiputihKorobase: ahahahaha

[2010/08/15 19:37] Abraham Ferryhill:Problems with heart?

[2010/08/15 19:37] PantaiputihKorobase: it would be green and purple then

[2010/08/15 19:37] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:37] PantaiputihKorobase: ycorn wise

[2010/08/15 19:37] PantaiputihKorobase: a*

[2010/08/15 19:37] Oak Hazelnut: imhere

[2010/08/15 19:37] Abraham Ferryhill:So what's your definition of roleplay?

[2010/08/15 19:38] Oak Hazelnut: whos

[2010/08/15 19:38] Abraham Ferryhill:yours

[2010/08/15 19:38] Oak Hazelnut: minesimple someone who lives out role against another person

[2010/08/15 19:38] Oak Hazelnut: irwith weapons fighting etc

[2010/08/15 19:38] Abraham Ferryhill:ok, scary

[2010/08/15 19:39] Grimley Graves: lol

[2010/08/15 19:39] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:39] Abraham Ferryhill:PvP view :)

[2010/08/15 19:39] Abraham Ferryhill:What's your idea Grims?

[2010/08/15 19:39] Grimley Graves: myidea is not to give Oak sharp objects :)

[2010/08/15 19:39] PantaiputihKorobase: this is RP?

[2010/08/15 19:39] Oak Hazelnut: lool

[2010/08/15 19:39] Grimley Graves:basically RP is a group activity...

[2010/08/15 19:40] Lion Ewry isOffline

[2010/08/15 19:40] Grimley Graves:it's telling a story by taking the role of a character in thatstory...

[2010/08/15 19:40] Grimley Graves: thestoryline is malleable, it can change as the players interact

[2010/08/15 19:41] Oak Hazelnut: oohgrim you been reading up

[2010/08/15 19:41] Grimley Graves:sort of like improvisational theater

[2010/08/15 19:41] PantaiputihKorobase: yep, some framework and first ruels and then it can develop

[2010/08/15 19:41] Grimley Graves:lol, I've been a LARPer for almost 30 years now

[2010/08/15 19:41] Abraham Ferryhill:That's why you're last ;)

[2010/08/15 19:41] PantaiputihKorobase: what is a a larper?

[2010/08/15 19:42] PantaiputihKorobase: long acting RP?

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll go into LARP in this.

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:This is picture I wanted to show you to all :)

[2010/08/15 19:42] Grimley Graves:yeah, you have a basic set of rules, guidelines on how to play combatand magic for example

[2010/08/15 19:42] PantaiputihKorobase: ok, got that :-)

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes that's true :)

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll tell about scandinavic style later on but first definition ofroleplay:

[2010/08/15 19:42] Abraham Ferryhill:My definition of roleplaying is a 'interactive story with imiginativecharacters where participant actually takes a fictive role at somepoint.'

[2010/08/15 19:43] Grimley Graves:LOL, oh god thats too close for comfort

[2010/08/15 19:43] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:43] Abraham Ferryhill:Roleplaying might be taking role of some sort of monster piggy...

[2010/08/15 19:43] Oak Hazelnut: true

[2010/08/15 19:43] Abraham Ferryhill:But in any terms, means roleplaying is a first of all: state of mind.

[2010/08/15 19:44] Abraham Ferryhill:Can you tell me things that came close but are not roleplaying?

[2010/08/15 19:44] Abraham Ferryhill:In strict sense.

[2010/08/15 19:44] PantaiputihKorobase: umm, real life?

[2010/08/15 19:44] Oak Hazelnut: lool

[2010/08/15 19:44] Oak Hazelnut: welltheres amny things

[2010/08/15 19:44] PantaiputihKorobase: we all play roles in RL too in some way

[2010/08/15 19:45] Oak Hazelnut:action films are one

[2010/08/15 19:45] Oak Hazelnut:internet is another

[2010/08/15 19:45] PantaiputihKorobase: ello Tiny

[2010/08/15 19:45] Abraham Ferryhill:yes you're right.

[2010/08/15 19:45] Abraham Ferryhill:Welcome!

[2010/08/15 19:45] Oak Hazelnut:anything tht involves non comformed character is role play

[2010/08/15 19:45] Grimley Graves: hiTiny

[2010/08/15 19:45] Oak Hazelnut: atlast

[2010/08/15 19:45] Oak Hazelnut: whereyou been tiny

[2010/08/15 19:45] Abraham Ferryhill:quite true oak

[2010/08/15 19:45] Abraham Ferryhill:Well one thing comes to my mind SCA:

[2010/08/15 19:46] Oak Hazelnut:wheres tiny

[2010/08/15 19:46] Tiny Elfin2: hieverzone

[2010/08/15 19:46] Oak Hazelnut: cantseeher

[2010/08/15 19:46] Abraham Ferryhill:You can dress to 17th century dress and still not being roleplaying.

[2010/08/15 19:46] Tiny Elfin2:logging in and teleporting is borked

[2010/08/15 19:46] Abraham Ferryhill:Told you :)

[2010/08/15 19:46] Grimley Graves:yeah, from what I know of it it's a loose definition of RP

[2010/08/15 19:46] Oak Hazelnut: yep iknow took us all ages to log in

[2010/08/15 19:46] Abraham Ferryhill:wo things you need: role and play

[2010/08/15 19:46] Abraham Ferryhill:two

[2010/08/15 19:47] Oak Hazelnut: tinysit down

[2010/08/15 19:47] Grimley Graves:altho some SCAers I know live their "roles" 24/7

[2010/08/15 19:47] Abraham Ferryhill:That might be metarole then.

[2010/08/15 19:47] Abraham Ferryhill:Role could be historical person but when you're improvising and nottelling lines like in theatre you're roleplaying.

[2010/08/15 19:47] Oak Hazelnut: yesactors role paly

[2010/08/15 19:47] Cheops Forlife isOnline

[2010/08/15 19:48] Grimley Graves:yeah, improv... the hardest style of acting

[2010/08/15 19:48] Abraham Ferryhill:Actually both yes and no.

[2010/08/15 19:48] Oak Hazelnut: mm

[2010/08/15 19:48] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes actors do roleplay but they are not actually encouraged it.

[2010/08/15 19:48] Oak Hazelnut: true

[2010/08/15 19:48] PantaiputihKorobase: as they just repeat the words written by someone

[2010/08/15 19:48] Abraham Ferryhill:yes, and in defintion that's not roleplaying

[2010/08/15 19:48] Grimley Graves:yes, very scripted

[2010/08/15 19:49] Abraham Ferryhill:but you can get to role through written things

[2010/08/15 19:49] Oak Hazelnut: ifihit grim with acorn thats role play lool

[2010/08/15 19:49] Grimley Graves: nowtake a character and put them in a play they dont know... thats RP

[2010/08/15 19:49] Tiny Elfin2: um no

[2010/08/15 19:49] Tiny Elfin2: thatsgriefing, and zoull be beheaded here

[2010/08/15 19:49] Oak Hazelnut: lool

[2010/08/15 19:49] Tiny Elfin2: thatsroleplaz

[2010/08/15 19:49] Abraham Ferryhill:Grim told before about roleplaying being social. That's true

[2010/08/15 19:49] Abraham Ferryhill:Roleplaying games are social hobby. Though there's no audience inroleplaying games. This is true in live action too. The play is forparticipants only. That means even terribly shy people can try it.Having audience folloing roleplay would cause some people to freezewhich is not fun.

[2010/08/15 19:49] PantaiputihKorobase: lol, tiny, you have your keyboards settigns Asian orAmerican, lol

[2010/08/15 19:49] Abraham Ferryhill:Actually that happened to us once.

[2010/08/15 19:50] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:50] Grimley Graves: mygroup has lots of onlookers

[2010/08/15 19:50] Tiny Elfin2:european

[2010/08/15 19:50] Grimley Graves:they follow the teams and watch

[2010/08/15 19:50] Grimley Graves: butstay out of the way

[2010/08/15 19:50] Oak Hazelnut: whatgroup

[2010/08/15 19:50] Grimley Graves:IFGS

[2010/08/15 19:50] Abraham Ferryhill:What's IFGS?

[2010/08/15 19:50] Grimley Graves:http://www.ifgs.org/

[2010/08/15 19:51] Grimley Graves: mylarp group

[2010/08/15 19:51] Tiny Elfin2:machine gun made bz theisralie airforce_

[2010/08/15 19:51] Abraham Ferryhill:Japanese tourists like to shoot a lot with cameras :)

[2010/08/15 19:51] Oak Hazelnut: oh

[2010/08/15 19:51] Abraham Ferryhill:That's why acual castles are bad places to live roleplay

[2010/08/15 19:51] PantaiputihKorobase: basically, VWs are roleplaying words too, I guess, may benot on the strict sense, but at least you chose a character and playit

[2010/08/15 19:51] Abraham Ferryhill:We have lots of woods to hide in.

[2010/08/15 19:51] Oak Hazelnut: elfsare rp lol

[2010/08/15 19:51] Oak Hazelnut: wehide behind tinylool

[2010/08/15 19:52] PantaiputihKorobase: as an example

[2010/08/15 19:52] PantaiputihKorobase: I mean, how can I be sure Grims is not playing a role inhere?

[2010/08/15 19:52] Oak Hazelnut: youcant

[2010/08/15 19:52] Grimley Graves:well, VW's have that opportunity, but mostly people play themselves

[2010/08/15 19:52] Oak Hazelnut: whatsvws a car

[2010/08/15 19:52] PantaiputihKorobase: well, yep, right, Grims, mostly

[2010/08/15 19:52] Abraham Ferryhill:Ok, how about next issue then. Is there winners in RP?

[2010/08/15 19:52] Oak Hazelnut: yes

[2010/08/15 19:52] Oak Hazelnut: theones who survive lol

[2010/08/15 19:52] PantaiputihKorobase: depends on the setting

[2010/08/15 19:52] Grimley Graves:yeah, those that have fun :)

[2010/08/15 19:53] PantaiputihKorobase: no need to have them, but can have them

[2010/08/15 19:53] Abraham Ferryhill:true all

[2010/08/15 19:53] Abraham Ferryhill:There's no winners in roleplaying games. We have some words asleftovers from boardgames like calling live action events to 'games'or organizator as 'gamemaster.' But in definition you can't ever winroleplaying game or live roleplaying game. I think that idea waskilled somewhere in the 80s -

you can measure social values in pointsor gold collected. However you can excell in scenario. To Apollo 13their scenario was to return back to Earth and they did just that.However roleplayer might just want to take role of criminal who'sgoing to be hanged in the morning. Best experiences do come fromsituations when you're not actually winning anything.

[2010/08/15 19:53] PantaiputihKorobase: (even losers can win)

[2010/08/15 19:53] Oak Hazelnut: oh

[2010/08/15 19:53] Abraham Ferryhill:loosing is fun :)

[2010/08/15 19:53] Grimley Graves:some of our games have been that way

[2010/08/15 19:53] Grimley Graves:only way to win is to lose

[2010/08/15 19:54] PantaiputihKorobase: lol

[2010/08/15 19:54] Oak Hazelnut: what

[2010/08/15 19:54] Grimley Graves:sacrifice your characters life to save the kingdom

[2010/08/15 19:54] Abraham Ferryhill:or be the poor guy who gets beheaded :)

[2010/08/15 19:54] PantaiputihKorobase: I assume, there are also settings with RP where there is noneed to talk about losing or winning, but just to interact

[2010/08/15 19:55] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 19:55] PantaiputihKorobase: and may be learn

[2010/08/15 19:55] Abraham Ferryhill:Depends the scenario.

[2010/08/15 19:55] PantaiputihKorobase: sure

[2010/08/15 19:55] Grimley Graves:yeah, we call those "tavern games" mostly set in town barsor meeting halls

[2010/08/15 19:55] Abraham Ferryhill:We do have tavern games

[2010/08/15 19:55] Grimley Graves: noreal "goal" just interaction

[2010/08/15 19:56] Abraham Ferryhill:And the revard is social aways.

[2010/08/15 19:56] Grimley Graves:most of ours are lore giving games for the bigger games

[2010/08/15 19:56] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll show a picture in the wall.

[2010/08/15 19:56] Abraham Ferryhill:Guess who's going to be a dog meat? ;)

[2010/08/15 19:56] Oak Hazelnut: lo

[2010/08/15 19:57] Grimley Graves:"lore" being important clues and info given to playersbefore the game begins

[2010/08/15 19:57] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 19:57] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes, the material is usually written down.

[2010/08/15 19:57] PantaiputihKorobase: cant see the texture

[2010/08/15 19:57] Grimley Graves: thetreasure map, the cryptic note, etc

[2010/08/15 19:57] PantaiputihKorobase accepted your inventory offer.

[2010/08/15 19:58] Grimley Graves: meeither, bad grid day

[2010/08/15 19:58] Abraham Ferryhill:That's me against the guards in the picture.

[2010/08/15 19:58] Abraham Ferryhill:Knew that would happen :)

[2010/08/15 19:58] Tiny Elfin2: welldont feel bad i cant see me or the pic

[2010/08/15 19:58] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:58] PantaiputihKorobase: lol tiny

[2010/08/15 19:58] Oak Hazelnut: goodtiny you need face lift today loool

[2010/08/15 19:58] Tiny Elfin2accepted your inventory offer.

[2010/08/15 19:58] PantaiputihKorobase: guess, the servers are a bit sleepy

[2010/08/15 19:58] Grimley Graves:shift copt the pic,maybe it will force a load

[2010/08/15 19:58] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll hand out pictures to those who can't see

[2010/08/15 19:59] Oak Hazelnut: i ant

[2010/08/15 19:59] PantaiputihKorobase: cant see it from inventory either

[2010/08/15 19:59] Abraham Ferryhill:ok, no can do then

[2010/08/15 19:59] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:59] Oak Hazelnut: theservers hungry i think lol

[2010/08/15 19:59] PantaiputihKorobase: starving, hahahaha

[2010/08/15 19:59] Tiny Elfin2: cometo think of it, i cant see anz of zou either, all grez

[2010/08/15 19:59] Abraham Ferryhill:

[2010/08/15 19:59] Grimley Graves: trya relog Tiny

[2010/08/15 19:59] Abraham Ferryhill:here's hte picture in web :)

[2010/08/15 19:59] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 19:59] Tiny Elfin2: ohgood idea, plaz log in tag

[2010/08/15 20:00] Oak Hazelnut: icant open that link lol

[2010/08/15 20:00] Grimley Graves: 9against 1 eh Abe?

[2010/08/15 20:00] PantaiputihKorobase: ok, from web I can see, thanks

[2010/08/15 20:00] PantaiputihKorobase: thats your RLRP group, is it?

[2010/08/15 20:00] Abraham Ferryhill:Yeah, I stroke two soldiers down and had one hit. I was holding mywonded side when pirest comes and heals those two.

[2010/08/15 20:00] Tiny Elfin2: befair two are wemon with out viyable weapons

[2010/08/15 20:01] Abraham Ferryhill:yes that's our organization

[2010/08/15 20:01] Abraham Ferryhill:Then I'm against five and some auxiaries.

[2010/08/15 20:01] Oak Hazelnut: icant see anthing

[2010/08/15 20:01] Abraham Ferryhill:Managed to wound four :)

[2010/08/15 20:01] Tiny Elfin2: lookslike a monk involved there

[2010/08/15 20:01] Grimley Graves:lol, probably MU's

[2010/08/15 20:01] Abraham Ferryhill:Thats right Tiny

[2010/08/15 20:01] Grimley Graves:magic is a VERY viable weapon

[2010/08/15 20:01] Tiny Elfin2: alsoweaponless

[2010/08/15 20:01] PantaiputihKorobase: I am soooo against violence, do I still have a place in RP?

[2010/08/15 20:01] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes

[2010/08/15 20:01] PantaiputihKorobase: seconds magic :-)

[2010/08/15 20:01] Tiny Elfin2: wellid watch out for the wemon

[2010/08/15 20:02] Oak Hazelnut: as mycake maker pants

[2010/08/15 20:02] Abraham Ferryhill:Our tavernkeeper is always drunk and never fights :)

(note: Had to show you. Tavernkeeper legs in the stocks)

[2010/08/15 20:02] PantaiputihKorobase: lol

[2010/08/15 20:02] Grimley Graves:sure Pants, violence is only part of it

[2010/08/15 20:02] PantaiputihKorobase: ok, tavernkeeper sounds VERY good to me anyway

[2010/08/15 20:02] Abraham Ferryhill:Really there's all the roles you can nave.

[2010/08/15 20:02] Oak Hazelnut: rpsint allways about fights or violence

[2010/08/15 20:02] Abraham Ferryhill:name.

[2010/08/15 20:02] Oak Hazelnut: canbe used with good intentions pants

[2010/08/15 20:02] Grimley Graves:we've done games with no fighting at all

[2010/08/15 20:02] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes. Now, do you know guy named J.L Moreno?

[2010/08/15 20:03] Abraham Ferryhill:ever heard?

[2010/08/15 20:03] Oak Hazelnut: magicis wonderfull way to rp

[2010/08/15 20:03] PantaiputihKorobase: nope

[2010/08/15 20:03] Grimley Graves: no

[2010/08/15 20:03] Oak Hazelnut: no

[2010/08/15 20:03] Abraham Ferryhill:There's little of actual research on roleplaying. There is researchabout kids play but not adults. J.L. Moreno's is a father ofpsychodrama and his role theory is basic study that tells us some keythings about role.

[2010/08/15 20:03] Tiny Elfin2: rockband from southamerica? oh sorz

[2010/08/15 20:03] Abraham Ferryhill:This is was Panta asked earlier. Do we roleplay in our everydaylives?

[2010/08/15 20:03] Abraham Ferryhill:Role isn't a dramatic enacment. Accordingly Morenos we have dozens ofroles and we change them from situation to situation. Architypes arevalid, you might be student but you also might be

spouse and you're most certanlysomeones children. Invoking one role makes other peoples to switchtheirs. That means if there's a childish person there will besomebody present who will take adult role - a opposite role.

[2010/08/15 20:04] Grimley Graves:psycobabble, bleh

[2010/08/15 20:04] Tiny Elfin2: soundslike oakie

[2010/08/15 20:04] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 20:04] Oak Hazelnut: slapstiny

[2010/08/15 20:04] Abraham Ferryhill:The point here is that it's actually natural to have diffrent roles.

[2010/08/15 20:04] Oak Hazelnut: nowthats rp my slapping tiny

[2010/08/15 20:05] Grimley Graves:slaps Oak

[2010/08/15 20:05] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:05] Abraham Ferryhill:Emphaty means the capability to share another being's emotions andfeelings. That means if someone is hurt you can stop and help himbecause you can imagine yourself in same situation.

[2010/08/15 20:05] Tiny Elfin2 slidesa slimez cowpie down oakies pants

[2010/08/15 20:05] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 20:05] Grimley Graves:nyuk nyuk nyuk... hey MOE

[2010/08/15 20:05] Oak Hazelnut: loool

[2010/08/15 20:05] PantaiputihKorobase: well, in RL it might be less "extreme", butstill, there is plaing a role in different situations, differentenvironments, not that clear as in a "game", but still somedeviations form the real person behind may be

[2010/08/15 20:06] Abraham Ferryhill:Gamism needs a bit dramatic roles I suppose?

[2010/08/15 20:06] Grimley Graves: butin this discussion it's about acting

[2010/08/15 20:06] Oak Hazelnut:agreed

[2010/08/15 20:06] Grimley Graves:something completely beyond your normal life

[2010/08/15 20:06] PantaiputihKorobase: fo rme, nothing is completely behins the normnal life,otherwise, you could not do it

[2010/08/15 20:07] PantaiputihKorobase: so, it is in you already

[2010/08/15 20:07] PantaiputihKorobase: oooo typos

[2010/08/15 20:07] Oak Hazelnut: truepants

[2010/08/15 20:07] Abraham Ferryhill:What do you know about roleplaying that's used in therapy?

[2010/08/15 20:07] Oak Hazelnut: thereare many aspects to us all

[2010/08/15 20:07] PantaiputihKorobase: you can not escape your mind, you can learn, go forward,but there still are limits (human kind)

[2010/08/15 20:07] Grimley Graves:taking the role of leader, or sympathiser is basic, taking the roleof a monster or soldier is RP

[2010/08/15 20:08] Oak Hazelnut: nottrue

[2010/08/15 20:08] PantaiputihKorobase: think, a monster is easier than a responsibleleader...........

[2010/08/15 20:08] Oak Hazelnut: yuocan take role of budhest monk and rp

[2010/08/15 20:08] Abraham Ferryhill:I was mafia boss once :)

[2010/08/15 20:08] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:08] PantaiputihKorobase: lol, Ab

[2010/08/15 20:08] Oak Hazelnut: i wascustard pie

[2010/08/15 20:08] PantaiputihKorobase: hahaha

[2010/08/15 20:09] PantaiputihKorobase: I did not find the banana RP game yet, but if Iwill............................. be cautios!

[2010/08/15 20:09] Tiny Elfin2: stillare

[2010/08/15 20:09] Abraham Ferryhill:What's interesting in roleplaying and live roleplaying is that same methods are used in real life therapy.

[2010/08/15 20:09] Grimley Graves: LOL

[2010/08/15 20:09] Abraham Ferryhill:Ever watched Frasier?

[2010/08/15 20:09] Grimley Graves: wbTiny

[2010/08/15 20:09] Abraham Ferryhill:wb Tiny

[2010/08/15 20:09] Oak Hazelnut: no

[2010/08/15 20:10] Abraham Ferryhill:LARP actually shares even debriefing with psychology.

[2010/08/15 20:10] Abraham Ferryhill:It's considered part of the after game.

[2010/08/15 20:10] Oak Hazelnut: ok

[2010/08/15 20:11] Abraham Ferryhill:Debriefing is something that's used to defuse traumatic situations.

[2010/08/15 20:11] Grimley Graves: weuse alcohol for that LOL

[2010/08/15 20:11] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:11] PantaiputihKorobase: pffff

[2010/08/15 20:12] Abraham Ferryhill:We use that too a lot so it's no news.

[2010/08/15 20:12] Grimley Graves:zombies cant spell

[2010/08/15 20:12] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:12] Abraham Ferryhill:Live action is a bastard son of psychodrama ;)

[2010/08/15 20:12] Grimley Graves:there is always a lot of psyco-babble about how RP helps or hurtspeople, but to me it's just fun... an escape from RL

[2010/08/15 20:13] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 20:13] Abraham Ferryhill:There would be a picture in the wall if you could see it. A Frasier talking to empty chair. That's same method that we use in funsituations.

[2010/08/15 20:13] Oak Hazelnut: thatswhy were here

[2010/08/15 20:13] PantaiputihKorobase: biggest prob with psychology in RL might be that there isalways an "interpreter" whi thinkg is right (and may benot)

[2010/08/15 20:14] Abraham Ferryhill:Well, the point I was making is safety issues which I'm about to talkabout next.

[2010/08/15 20:14] Grimley Graves:yeah, I have a real problem with psychologists

[2010/08/15 20:14] PantaiputihKorobase: :-) Girms

[2010/08/15 20:14] Oak Hazelnut:munches acorn

[2010/08/15 20:14] PantaiputihKorobase: they cant see you, lol

[2010/08/15 20:14] Grimley Graves:they taste terrible ;)

[2010/08/15 20:14] Abraham Ferryhill:Apple in the day keeps doctor away

[2010/08/15 20:14] PantaiputihKorobase: rolf

[2010/08/15 20:14] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:14] Abraham Ferryhill:lol

[2010/08/15 20:15] Abraham Ferryhill:Anyway there has been critcism against roleplaying and it's only fairto actually point out that there's nothing to be ashamed of.

[2010/08/15 20:16] Oak Hazelnut: ofcourse not but like everything people have different tastes etc ,just dont force it on others thats simple

[2010/08/15 20:16] PantaiputihKorobase: signed

[2010/08/15 20:16] Abraham Ferryhill:I think that's most important safety rule there is.

[2010/08/15 20:16] Grimley Graves:it's never forced, thats what seperates us from a cult :)

[2010/08/15 20:16] Oak Hazelnut: ofcourse

[2010/08/15 20:16] Oak Hazelnut: itschoie

[2010/08/15 20:17] Tiny Elfin2: ohdiscusting, just got replaced bz something called default

[2010/08/15 20:17] Tiny Elfin2: am iruthed_

[2010/08/15 20:17] Abraham Ferryhill:lol Tiny

[2010/08/15 20:17] Oak Hazelnut:looool

[2010/08/15 20:17] PantaiputihKorobase: cool

[2010/08/15 20:17] PantaiputihKorobase: love that outfit

[2010/08/15 20:17] Grimley Graves: andin 30 years I've never seen anyone who "got lost" in a roleor a game and took it as real

[2010/08/15 20:17] Oak Hazelnut: cantsee youtiny

[2010/08/15 20:17] Tiny Elfin2: wow iwrote that before i got logged out

[2010/08/15 20:17] Abraham Ferryhill:Grim I have seen but they have been teenagers.

[2010/08/15 20:17] Oak Hazelnut: oohlook newbie tiny looool

[2010/08/15 20:17] Tiny Elfin2: and imstill a smokeball

[2010/08/15 20:18] Grimley Graves: tome your a default av, just turned that way

[2010/08/15 20:18] Oak Hazelnut: lol

[2010/08/15 20:18] Oak Hazelnut: andto me aswell

[2010/08/15 20:18] PantaiputihKorobase: not really default, pants are not red

[2010/08/15 20:18] Grimley Graves: youwere your normal self a second ago

[2010/08/15 20:18] Oak Hazelnut: tinyallwhite

[2010/08/15 20:18] Grimley Graves:with ruth hair

[2010/08/15 20:18] Abraham Ferryhill:Accidents can happen without anybody "getting lost". Sowhat things are importat to you? What things we should consider sothat everyone would have good experience on roleplaying?

[2010/08/15 20:18] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 20:19] Abraham Ferryhill:What say you?

[2010/08/15 20:19] Oak Hazelnut: true,but as lnog as thats wriiten into the events then thats fine

[2010/08/15 20:19] Grimley Graves:well, that everyone participating gets a full experiance

[2010/08/15 20:19] PantaiputihKorobase: r-e-s-p-e-c-t

[2010/08/15 20:19] PantaiputihKorobase: :-)

[2010/08/15 20:19] Grimley Graves: oras full as they want to have

[2010/08/15 20:19] Abraham Ferryhill:respect is good

[2010/08/15 20:19] Oak Hazelnut: yes

[2010/08/15 20:19] Tiny Elfin2: fun

[2010/08/15 20:20] Oak Hazelnut: my rpwill be quest to better ones self and find our elven spirits , so itspeace rp

[2010/08/15 20:20] Abraham Ferryhill:Because we can't gurantee everyone has same experience ;)

[2010/08/15 20:20] PantaiputihKorobase: dont kill someone who does not want to be murdered :-))))9

[2010/08/15 20:20] Grimley Graves:nothing worse than being assigned a role that never gets played

[2010/08/15 20:20] Abraham Ferryhill:yes that's true

[2010/08/15 20:20] Tiny Elfin2: oh poohow am i gonna steal his gold?

[2010/08/15 20:20] Abraham Ferryhill:Consent

[2010/08/15 20:20] Oak Hazelnut: yuorfind way you steel my acorns

[2010/08/15 20:20] PantaiputihKorobase: consent is a good one too

[2010/08/15 20:21] Abraham Ferryhill:Tiny either you approach game master/storyteller/who's in charge andlet him negotiate it.

[2010/08/15 20:21] Abraham Ferryhill:Or you contact your victim and consent about the theft.

[2010/08/15 20:21] Grimley Graves: butconsent isn't always in the storyline

[2010/08/15 20:21] Tiny Elfin2: if bzstealing zour acorns zoud starve to death (rp of course) id do it

[2010/08/15 20:21] Oak Hazelnut: lool

[2010/08/15 20:21] Abraham Ferryhill:Well, Oak can say he has extra supply so he can't starve.

[2010/08/15 20:21] Abraham Ferryhill:That's consent.

[2010/08/15 20:21] PantaiputihKorobase: wonders how many acorns, Oak has

[2010/08/15 20:21] Oak Hazelnut: truegrim ,in that case there aware ogf what might happen

[2010/08/15 20:21] Oak Hazelnut: notmany pants she eat them all lool

[2010/08/15 20:21] Abraham Ferryhill:You can't force Oak to die in hunger :)

[2010/08/15 20:21] Tiny Elfin2 knowswhere he keeps his stash

[2010/08/15 20:21] PantaiputihKorobase: lol

[2010/08/15 20:22] Oak Hazelnut: shecan loooool shes evil

[2010/08/15 20:22] Grimley Graves:yes, sometimes the dragon attacks the players, they dont consent tothat

[2010/08/15 20:22] Grimley Graves: butthey have to deal with it

[2010/08/15 20:22] PantaiputihKorobase: whyt dragon?

[2010/08/15 20:22] PantaiputihKorobase: whyt*

[2010/08/15 20:22] Abraham Ferryhill:I do think people do agree on some things when they enter rpg area.Like that they might get burn on dragon fire if they go to it's cave;)

[2010/08/15 20:23] Tiny Elfin2: thatswhz i build dragon traps into mz buildings

[2010/08/15 20:23] PantaiputihKorobase: aaa now I have the thai keybaord again too

[2010/08/15 20:23] Grimley Graves: andhow they deal is based on their characters, some attack, some seekrevenge, some turn the other cheek, etc

[2010/08/15 20:23] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 20:23] Abraham Ferryhill:So we have some basic things everyone should agree on beforeroleplaying can begin.

[2010/08/15 20:24] Tiny Elfin2: havingfun is high on mz list

[2010/08/15 20:24] Grimley Graves:yeah, thats why we have a basic set of rules

[2010/08/15 20:24] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 20:24] Grimley Graves:sorry, guidelines...

[2010/08/15 20:24] PantaiputihKorobase: recommendations, hhahaha

[2010/08/15 20:24] Grimley Graves: howcombat works, how magic works etc

[2010/08/15 20:24] PantaiputihKorobase: to make it even weaker

[2010/08/15 20:24] Abraham Ferryhill:Ok, what about rules considering talking?

[2010/08/15 20:25] Abraham Ferryhill:Because most drama begins there and not the actual combat.

[2010/08/15 20:25] Grimley Graves:chat should always be in character, out of character should be inIM's

[2010/08/15 20:25] Abraham Ferryhill:yes

[2010/08/15 20:25] PantaiputihKorobase: drama can even start by looking into a bad temperd face(words not needed)

[2010/08/15 20:26] Abraham Ferryhill:yes, that's a bit harder here though

[2010/08/15 20:26] PantaiputihKorobase: lol, ydes

[2010/08/15 20:26] Abraham Ferryhill:Everything you say in open chat is regarded in character. That meansit's paramout to keep In character and out of character discussionseperate.

[2010/08/15 20:26] PantaiputihKorobase: can I have a metacharacter window?

[2010/08/15 20:26] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 20:26] Grimley Graves:it's hard for some to get used to tho

[2010/08/15 20:27] Abraham Ferryhill:few things that helps:

[2010/08/15 20:27] Abraham Ferryhill:-Most people look like their character. They don't come to LARP intheir blue jeans!

-Have diffrent name to your characterthan what's your avatar name.

[2010/08/15 20:27] Abraham Ferryhill:-In SL and OL you should use repeater and possibly floating textannouncing your character name.

Repeater turns your text to "Charactername: xxxxxx" format making it impossible to mix with your OLpersona.

[2010/08/15 20:28] Grimley Graves:thats the next order of business, what should a RP hud have?

[2010/08/15 20:28] Abraham Ferryhill:Well I have repater titler ready already so I don't think I don'tneed anything else...

[2010/08/15 20:29] Grimley Graves:I've seen so many huds that have floating text above players headsannouncing all stats, strengths, weaknesses, hit points, class

[2010/08/15 20:29] Grimley Graves: itgets annoying

[2010/08/15 20:29] PantaiputihKorobase: boring even may be

[2010/08/15 20:29] Abraham Ferryhill:yes, and those things don't actually help you to get into role

[2010/08/15 20:30] PantaiputihKorobase: no magic :-))

[2010/08/15 20:30] Grimley Graves:four lines of text above each avs head lol

[2010/08/15 20:30] Abraham Ferryhill:Because most things happen inside your head.

[2010/08/15 20:30] PantaiputihKorobase: and I am short sigthed

[2010/08/15 20:30] Tiny Elfin2: imagainst huds that show everzone zour stats

[2010/08/15 20:30] Grimley Graves: inmy opinion a simple health bar is all that should be displayed toother players

[2010/08/15 20:30] Tiny Elfin2: iwouldnt even have that

[2010/08/15 20:30] Abraham Ferryhill:I think most important thing is you to have note about your character

[2010/08/15 20:30] Grimley Graves:agreed tiny

[2010/08/15 20:31] Abraham Ferryhill:Name, occupation...

[2010/08/15 20:31] Grimley Graves:everything else can be in a floating window viewable to you only

[2010/08/15 20:31] Tiny Elfin2: i didone for a starwars charctor i used

[2010/08/15 20:31] Abraham Ferryhill:that's great tiny

[2010/08/15 20:32] PantaiputihKorobase: brb

[2010/08/15 20:32] PantaiputihKorobase: RL

[2010/08/15 20:32] Abraham Ferryhill:I would show some of my character if inventory would work :P

[2010/08/15 20:32] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 20:35] Grimley Graves:we're all air sitting

[2010/08/15 20:39] Tiny Elfin2: iwrote that at 828 and reloged

[2010/08/15 20:39] Grimley Graves: youmean for RP?

[2010/08/15 20:39] Tiny Elfin2: noooo

[2010/08/15 20:40] Tiny Elfin2:[12:39] Tiny Elfin2: again it logged me out at 8.28

[2010/08/15 20:40] Tiny Elfin2: thisline

[2010/08/15 20:40] Abraham Ferryhill:ok

[2010/08/15 20:40] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 20:40] Tiny Elfin2: iwrote it at 8.28

[2010/08/15 20:40] Abraham Ferryhill:I'm back

[2010/08/15 20:40] Oak Hazelnut: loolnice cloud ab

[2010/08/15 20:40] Grimley Graves:chat lag could lead to some interesting RP LOL

[2010/08/15 20:40] Tiny Elfin2: wbabraham

[2010/08/15 20:40] Abraham Ferryhill:Had to dump cache

[2010/08/15 20:40] PantaiputihKorobase: actually, there are so many factors influencing VWs likeyou ISP, your hardware, their serveers, it is hard tro tell what goesright and wha goes wrong

[2010/08/15 20:40] Tiny Elfin2: zouralso a cloud

[2010/08/15 20:40] PantaiputihKorobase: wb Ab

[2010/08/15 20:40] Grimley Graves:yep, true Pant

[2010/08/15 20:41] Abraham Ferryhill:I was just going to ask what we would need to have roleplaying in OL?

[2010/08/15 20:41] Tiny Elfin2: swords

[2010/08/15 20:41] PantaiputihKorobase: a 16 core chip

[2010/08/15 20:41] Grimley Graves: 1 agood story /quest

[2010/08/15 20:41] Abraham Ferryhill:You can have a load of swords from that boat :)

[2010/08/15 20:41] Tiny Elfin2: adependable data storage server

[2010/08/15 20:41] Grimley Graves: 2 agood combat and magic system

[2010/08/15 20:42] Grimley Graves: 3 adecent set of guidelines

[2010/08/15 20:42] Abraham Ferryhill:I think I was going strong untill I started to manipulate inventory.Chat works most of the time. Of course there's lag.

[2010/08/15 20:42] Abraham Ferryhill:But I think I'll elect Grims idea.

[2010/08/15 20:42] Abraham Ferryhill:For roleplay you'll need a story.

[2010/08/15 20:42] Abraham Ferryhill:Everything else (like working gird) is a bonus.

[2010/08/15 20:43] Abraham Ferryhill:And fact is roleplaying is based on text in any SL like enviroment.

[2010/08/15 20:43] Tiny Elfin2: wellnot onlz combat and majic, dont forget someone serves beer down atthe tavern

[2010/08/15 20:43] PantaiputihKorobase: and acorns

[2010/08/15 20:43] Grimley Graves:guidelines everyone agrees on is second in importance

[2010/08/15 20:43] PantaiputihKorobase: roasted

[2010/08/15 20:43] PantaiputihKorobase: .-)))

[2010/08/15 20:44] Grimley Graves: acombat hud would be nice but is not as needed as the others

[2010/08/15 20:44] Tiny Elfin2introduces oakies pants to another slimie cowpatie

[2010/08/15 20:44] Abraham Ferryhill:One thing is missing here.

[2010/08/15 20:44] PantaiputihKorobase: hahah

[2010/08/15 20:44] Abraham Ferryhill:The most important thing beside the story.

[2010/08/15 20:44] Abraham Ferryhill:The people.

[2010/08/15 20:45] PantaiputihKorobase: well, we have experience to bring people from other gridsto OL .-)

[2010/08/15 20:45] Grimley Graves:thats true

[2010/08/15 20:45] Abraham Ferryhill:Now there's quite many styles to actually roleplay here. We candiscuss lessos learned in SL later.

[2010/08/15 20:45] Oak Hazelnut: loool

[2010/08/15 20:45] Abraham Ferryhill:You can have roleplay with just few people.

[2010/08/15 20:45] Oak Hazelnut:lessonss ooh so many

[2010/08/15 20:45] Grimley Graves:there are also wasy of doing solo quests

[2010/08/15 20:45] Abraham Ferryhill:But they need to be same place at same time.

[2010/08/15 20:46] Oak Hazelnut:pinches tint

[2010/08/15 20:46] Abraham Ferryhill:Solo like in what terms?

[2010/08/15 20:46] Oak Hazelnut: tiny

[2010/08/15 20:46] Grimley Graves:well, treasure hunts, puzzle quests, etc...

[2010/08/15 20:46] Tiny Elfin2 watchesher tinz spider climb up oakies leg

[2010/08/15 20:46] Grimley Graves: notso heavy on the RP but can be themed

[2010/08/15 20:46] Oak Hazelnut:scream

[2010/08/15 20:46] Abraham Ferryhill:yes, and thats why I'm going to keep some tutorials here.

[2010/08/15 20:47] Abraham Ferryhill:Small adventures for small group.

[2010/08/15 20:47] Grimley Graves: Ihave some ideas on solo quests

[2010/08/15 20:47] Tiny Elfin2 softlzhums to her spider as it continues its journez

[2010/08/15 20:47] Abraham Ferryhill:It's close to british LRP with one gamemaster and players. Thegamemaster leads the group from place to place and plays the Nonplayer character roles.

[2010/08/15 20:47] Grimley Graves:I've seen decent NPC scripts for monsters

[2010/08/15 20:48] Abraham Ferryhill:It's a bit railroaded application but easy.

[2010/08/15 20:48] Abraham Ferryhill:Granted NPC scripts could be handy.

[2010/08/15 20:48] Grimley Graves:we'll have to talk to Firebird about those

[2010/08/15 20:48] PantaiputihKorobase: aaah Firebird can do those?

[2010/08/15 20:49] Abraham Ferryhill:Well, there's limit of programming always.

[2010/08/15 20:49] Grimley Graves: butthey all have to interact with the hud, if any

[2010/08/15 20:49] Abraham Ferryhill:Easiest way is to have one person who plays all the extra roles.

[2010/08/15 20:49] Grimley Graves:true, but changing avs is a pain

[2010/08/15 20:50] Abraham Ferryhill:I haven't had too much problem but It can be in this enviroment.

[2010/08/15 20:50] Abraham Ferryhill:So basically I'm suggesting to have really tiny events with less job.

[2010/08/15 20:50] Grimley Graves:another important thing is "no fly"

[2010/08/15 20:50] Abraham Ferryhill:we're not supermen

[2010/08/15 20:51] Abraham Ferryhill:When we have working roleplaying here we can have gatherings as openroleplaying events.

[2010/08/15 20:51] Abraham Ferryhill:Then*

[2010/08/15 20:51] Grimley Graves:unless you are riding a dragon you should be landlocked :)

[2010/08/15 20:51] Abraham Ferryhill:I'm planning to keep tavern evenings here ;)

[2010/08/15 20:52] PantaiputihKorobase: may be I missed it, but what would be the gerenal RP topicyou want to introduce to OL, ABraham?

[2010/08/15 20:52] Grimley Graves: oryour character has the fly ability

[2010/08/15 20:52] Abraham Ferryhill:Depends what sense you mean that Panta?

[2010/08/15 20:52] PantaiputihKorobase: general*

[2010/08/15 20:52] Abraham Ferryhill:Fly spell? ;)

[2010/08/15 20:52] PantaiputihKorobase: lol

[2010/08/15 20:52] Abraham Ferryhill:Well generally we'll be doing same things than in SL. Without drama Ihope? ;)

[2010/08/15 20:53] Abraham Ferryhill:But I would say that small guests for few people would be best forstarters.

[2010/08/15 20:53] Grimley Graves:having the ability to have an item that would allow someone to fly ina no fly zone would be really useful

[2010/08/15 20:53] PantaiputihKorobase: drama is everywhere I guess :-)

[2010/08/15 20:53] PantaiputihKorobase: stilll

[2010/08/15 20:53] Grimley Graves: areyou talking about genre Panta?

[2010/08/15 20:53] PantaiputihKorobase: some might be attracted by meidivial worlds, others by SciFi world, others again by anthing else

[2010/08/15 20:53] PantaiputihKorobase: yep

[2010/08/15 20:54] Grimley Graves: ah,it can be almost anything

[2010/08/15 20:54] Abraham Ferryhill:Last year Lord of The rings Online RPG was awarded as having mostwelcoming comminity.

[2010/08/15 20:54] Abraham Ferryhill:I asked my friend about it and he told most of players are adult.

[2010/08/15 20:54] PantaiputihKorobase: as we are no tatlking about RP in gerenal anymore but onthis grid, I woul dlike to know Abs ideas

[2010/08/15 20:54] Abraham Ferryhill:That's PG game ;)

[2010/08/15 20:54] PantaiputihKorobase: omg, my fingers............

[2010/08/15 20:55] Abraham Ferryhill:Well elves are one major thing here but I think I'm past thinkingroleplaying as genre to genre. Medieval fantasy would be thing herewheres SL has large amount of scifi.

[2010/08/15 20:55] PantaiputihKorobase: btw, how to do RP on a grid with something like 10concurrent users?

[2010/08/15 20:56] Abraham Ferryhill:But most important thing is have a warm community.

[2010/08/15 20:56] Oak Hazelnut: mm

[2010/08/15 20:56] Abraham Ferryhill:10 is well enough. Our RL group had 4 people in their first LARP.

[2010/08/15 20:56] Grimley Graves:it's all in how you write the story

[2010/08/15 20:56] PantaiputihKorobase: well, we are warm community even wo RP

[2010/08/15 20:56] Oak Hazelnut: yepwe are

[2010/08/15 20:56] Grimley Graves: andwe can tailor the genre to the regions

[2010/08/15 20:56] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes we are and now we're thinking about adding content here.

[2010/08/15 20:56] PantaiputihKorobase: not objecting RP by that

[2010/08/15 20:57] PantaiputihKorobase: yes, Ab, got that

[2010/08/15 20:57] Abraham Ferryhill:Well, I think it like this. In OL what you see is what you get.

[2010/08/15 20:57] Abraham Ferryhill:Having props like this isn't possible in real life.

[2010/08/15 20:57] PantaiputihKorobase: if you see it , hahahaha

[2010/08/15 20:57] Grimley Graves: lol

[2010/08/15 20:57] Abraham Ferryhill:It's not possible in IRC roleplaying, and it is left on yourimigination in table top roleplaying games.

[2010/08/15 20:58] Abraham Ferryhill:So strong feel of being there is definitely plus side of OL.

[2010/08/15 20:58] Grimley Graves: yes

[2010/08/15 20:58] Abraham Ferryhill:So virtual reality gaming like this is actually not future but today.

[2010/08/15 20:59] Abraham Ferryhill:And that's why I have been migrating our organization here.

[2010/08/15 20:59] Abraham Ferryhill:This place we're setting here was pencil drawing in our sourcematerial.

[2010/08/15 20:59] Abraham Ferryhill:Now it's actually here.

[2010/08/15 20:59] PantaiputihKorobase: as you can set standards and levels, rules etc by yourself- this is an advantage of VWs

[2010/08/15 21:00] PantaiputihKorobase: that are user created

[2010/08/15 21:02] Grimley Graves:still there Oak?

[2010/08/15 21:03] Grimley Graves: wbabe

[2010/08/15 21:03] Abraham Ferryhill:Great, it's working.

[2010/08/15 21:04] Grimley Graves:Pants had to go :/

[2010/08/15 21:04] Abraham Ferryhill:I think he said what's most important. Respect.

[2010/08/15 21:05] Oak Hazelnut: munch

[2010/08/15 21:05] Grimley Graves: ah,you are still here

[2010/08/15 21:05] Oak Hazelnut: yepsorry was doing something on lions den

[2010/08/15 21:06] Oak Hazelnut: wasonly away for few mins lol

[2010/08/15 21:06] Abraham Ferryhill:You can be in two places at once?

[2010/08/15 21:06] Grimley Graves:with an alt yeah

[2010/08/15 21:06] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 21:06] Oak Hazelnut: yourboth see tomorrow

[2010/08/15 21:06] Oak Hazelnut: lool

[2010/08/15 21:06] Abraham Ferryhill:kk

[2010/08/15 21:07] Abraham Ferryhill:No matter how hard I try to solve it seems somebody has to take earlymorning shift :)(

[2010/08/15 21:07] Grimley Graves:yeah, stupid time zones

[2010/08/15 21:07] Oak Hazelnut: yep

[2010/08/15 21:07] Abraham Ferryhill:But there's not much pacific people here so europe-american side ofglobe would be priority.

[2010/08/15 21:07] Grimley Graves:weekends will be best for group events

[2010/08/15 21:08] Oak Hazelnut: yessaturdays

[2010/08/15 21:08] Abraham Ferryhill:Shai gave idea of about 6pm

[2010/08/15 21:08] Abraham Ferryhill:before VL

[2010/08/15 21:08] Grimley Graves: andi'm a big supporter of solo quests, so there is something to dowhenever you're here

[2010/08/15 21:08] Oak Hazelnut: yes

[2010/08/15 21:09] Abraham Ferryhill:I can't be on every saturday so sunday might be one possibility too

[2010/08/15 21:09] Abraham Ferryhill:But I might start like... next sunday with tutorial quest.

[2010/08/15 21:09] Grimley Graves:yeah, any time people dont have to get up the next day

[2010/08/15 21:09] Oak Hazelnut: greatidea

[2010/08/15 21:10] Abraham Ferryhill:We could talk things, make characters, even find some costumes andhave small adventure.

[2010/08/15 21:10] Grimley Graves:nice, gotta start somewhere

[2010/08/15 21:11] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes, and prefer somebody else does that too :)

[2010/08/15 21:11] Oak Hazelnut:scream

[2010/08/15 21:11] Oak Hazelnut: oopssorry

[2010/08/15 21:11] Abraham Ferryhill:So it should be priority to recruit people who would actually haveideas and time for this kind of stuff.

[2010/08/15 21:12] Abraham Ferryhill:I can't be up in american times and we really could use somebody tokeep tutorials to them too.

[2010/08/15 21:12] Abraham Ferryhill:Is there any elf group members who could do this?

[2010/08/15 21:12] Grimley Graves:well, I'm in the US

[2010/08/15 21:12] Oak Hazelnut: yes

[2010/08/15 21:12] Oak Hazelnut: many

[2010/08/15 21:13] Grimley Graves: Icould help out on the US time zones

[2010/08/15 21:13] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes even Surreal told me he could help :)

[2010/08/15 21:13] Grimley Graves: butI'm more of a nuts-n-blots guy, not so good on the story side

[2010/08/15 21:13] Abraham Ferryhill:Well the one lessons learned in SL is that don't overdo things.

[2010/08/15 21:14] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

[2010/08/15 21:14] Grimley Graves: yep

[2010/08/15 21:14] Abraham Ferryhill:Adventures do need to be simple.

[2010/08/15 21:14] Abraham Ferryhill:Goblin steals the boot (actually that's next adventure startingpoint)

[2010/08/15 21:14] Abraham Ferryhill:You don't have left boot now. What do you do?

[2010/08/15 21:14] Grimley Graves: goget the boot

[2010/08/15 21:14] Oak Hazelnut: sorryguys wont be long argueing with lion

[2010/08/15 21:14] Grimley Graves:kill the goblin if you have to'

[2010/08/15 21:15] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes, advetures here are more straightfoward than in paper and penroleplaying games.

[2010/08/15 21:15] Abraham Ferryhill:Standard would be what you said it would be. Respect.

[2010/08/15 21:15] Grimley Graves: butbonus points if you can steal it back without violence

[2010/08/15 21:15] Abraham Ferryhill:damn

[2010/08/15 21:15] Abraham Ferryhill:And more personal. The idea is to have people exited and not to haveanother lord of the rings :)

[2010/08/15 21:15] Abraham Ferryhill:Interesting how bad this chat lag is

[2010/08/15 21:16] Abraham Ferryhill:my comments come back after ten minutes

[2010/08/15 21:16] Grimley Graves: I'mnot having it

[2010/08/15 21:16] Abraham Ferryhill:Wierd comments

[2010/08/15 21:16] Grimley Graves:hehe

[2010/08/15 21:16] Abraham Ferryhill:Yes I agree with bonus there.

[2010/08/15 21:16] Oak Hazelnut: imback

[2010/08/15 21:16] Grimley Graves: onegoal, many paths

[2010/08/15 21:17] Abraham Ferryhill:So I would say really small and really sort guests.

[2010/08/15 21:17] Abraham Ferryhill:If people get interested they'll start their own storylines.

[2010/08/15 21:17] Oak Hazelnut: yesthey will

[2010/08/15 21:17] Grimley Graves:yep, basic stuff, low NPC requirements

[2010/08/15 21:17] Abraham Ferryhill:You're just the shepard who leads to the grassy lands :)

[2010/08/15 21:17] Oak Hazelnut: guyschanging the subjecty

[2010/08/15 21:18] Oak Hazelnut: caniask something

[2010/08/15 21:18] Abraham Ferryhill:Shoot

[2010/08/15 21:18] Oak Hazelnut:garden centres do we need them in ol

[2010/08/15 21:18] PantaiputihKorobase is Offline

[2010/08/15 21:18] Abraham Ferryhill:I guess they would be neat

[2010/08/15 21:18] Grimley Graves:sure

[2010/08/15 21:18] Abraham Ferryhill:Ninja attacks? :D

[2010/08/15 21:18] Oak Hazelnut: ok

[2010/08/15 21:19] Grimley Graves: espif they have nice low prim stuff

[2010/08/15 21:19] Abraham Ferryhill:Ok, thanks for meeting guys.

[2010/08/15 21:19] Oak Hazelnut: ohthey do

[2010/08/15 21:19] Oak Hazelnut:thanks ab

[2010/08/15 21:19] Abraham Ferryhill:I'll need to log off now.

[2010/08/15 21:19] Oak Hazelnut: beeninteresting

[2010/08/15 21:19] Abraham Ferryhill:Anyway I don't worry much, just head on and keep walking.

[2010/08/15 21:19] Grimley Graves:thanks Abe, we'll chat later on nuts n bolts

[2010/08/15 21:19] Abraham Ferryhill:Usually things sort themselves out.

[2010/08/15 21:20] Oak Hazelnut: mm

[2010/08/15 21:20] Abraham Ferryhill:I think I'll keep tavern evenings here, seems like this place isworking ok.

[2010/08/15 21:20] Oak Hazelnut: hehe

Abraham (Abe) is holding a meeting on 14th August to start the ball rolling for anyone who may like to put their feet in the shoes of a 'character'. 

This thread is to discuss that meeting and what went on.

I created the Roleplaying category in the forums so that anything relating to roleplaying can be discussed. Remember, the public can see this forum - only members can contribute - but the world can read it.

So whether it's the language of roleplaying, the rules of engagement, magic system, fighting techniques, HUDs and other accoutrement, or discussion of what outfits to where and where to get them - Create a thread and let's get talking.

Remember to get your group listed in OracL so they can be part of it.

Great list Digi. Thanks for this, and I'm sure the radio will be in demand.

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Here are the URLs to the music streams in the Free OLG Radio that people can pick up on Danaus.

The radio is menu driven and stations can be changed by anyone on a parcel its located on (though the owner needs to rezz and initialize it before it can be used by the public).

The listing below is in the format the radio expects (Genre-Station Name and URL ) but you can easily extract the url for the media panel from the listing (its after the = sign in each line )

As Shai rightly points out stream urls come and go so if any of these dont work the station may not be broadcasting ( test by copying the url into a web browser window to see if the Shoutcast page for it displays)

ALT 1080FM Rock Alt=http://scfire-ntc-aa07.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1030
ALT Ballermann Radio .de=http://213.251.187.129:9000
ALT Big R Radio 90s Alt=http://66.90.121.7:10015
ALT Idobi Radio=http://72.13.82.34:80
ALT Rautemusik.FM=http://scfire-ntc-aa01.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1052
ALT Tru3 Radio=http://sc.jji-radio.com:8014/
ALT XRM=http://91.121.100.184:8120
AMBIENT 16BIT.FM Cafe=http://16bit.fm:9700/
AMBIENT Buzzout Room=http://216.155.131.180:8608
AMBIENT FarPoint Electronica UK=http://shoutcast.media30.co.uk:8012/
AMBIENT Groovera Jet City Lounge=http://jetcitylounge.groovera.com:80/
AMBIENT Lounge Radio=http://213.131.232.28:8050
AMBIENT ProgressiveWelt.de=http://progressivewelt.de:8000/
BLUES BellyUp4Blues=http://64.62.252.136:5100
BLUES Blue Ears Radio=http://195.13.59.204:9480
BLUES Fiksz Radio Hungary=http://157.181.47.204:9000
BLUES Gotradio Blues=http://216.218.147.39:2064
BLUES Polskie Radio=http://91.121.123.186:5500
CLASSICAL Adagio FM=http://209.9.229.203:8080
CLASSICAL CM 247=http://70.32.73.211:8000/
CLASSICAL Magnatune Renaissance Baroque 1=http://64.62.148.2:8000
CLASSICAL Magnatune Renaissance Baroque 2=http://sc2.magnatune.com:8000/
CLASSICAL PLay Classical UK=http://94.76.243.73:80
CLASSICAL Sky Class Piano=http://scfire-mtc-aa02.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1004
CLASSICAL Swiss Radio Opera=http://82.197.167.139:80
CLASSICAL Venice Classical Radio Italy=http://91.121.201.104:9010
IRISH All Irish Radio=http://87.117.228.59:8706/
IRISH Blarney Stone 2= http://66.34.54.162:8004
IRISH LiveIreland Channel 1=http://208.53.131.29:8080/
IRISH LiveIreland Channel 2=http://208.53.131.29:8480
JAZZ Chris Brisciano Radio: MrBriskers Jazz=http://65.111.168.27:8000
JAZZ Martini in the Morning=http://sc6.spacialnet.com:23384/
JAZZ Smooth Chill RnB-CROOZE.fm = http://217.22.60.19:2590
LATIN Flamenco Radio=http://flamencoradio.net:8100/
LATIN Hard Salsa Radio=http://208.79.238.78:9028
LATIN La X Estereo=http://66.55.148.27:7020
LATIN LaConga Radio=http://ss5.shoutzone.net:8298/
LATIN Pandashowradio Mexico=http://sc56.panda.fast-serv.com:80/
LATIN SKY Salsastream= http://205.188.215.231:8010
NATURE New Zealand Nature Sounds Radio=http://208.131.156.168:8030
NATURE NZ Nature Music Radio=http://208.131.156.168:8010
NEWAGE Gotradio=http://216.246.14.87:80
NEWAGE Zen Radio=http://91.121.19.45:8900
POP 1.FM Top 40=http://64.62.252.132:8075
POP 181.fm Awesome 80s=http://216.155.137.150:8000
POP 70s Radio Atlantiapax=http://209.62.91.117:9000/
POP 70s THREETEN RADIO - The 70s channel=http://94.100.19.50:7890
POP ABC80s=http://87.117.228.59:8730/
POP All Pop Radio=http=//208.91.129.78:9030
POP Atlantic Sound Factory 70s-80s=http://208.85.240.84:80
POP Chaos Radio Eur 80s 90s=http://81.223.48.76:5678
POP Frequence3 France=http://80.65.234.120:8000
POP Kink ClassX Nederlands=http://81.173.3.24:80
POP Oldies104.net 50s-70s=http://207.200.96.231:8018
POP Radio POP 1=http://85.214.153.139:7000
POP Sky Oldies 50s-70s=http://209.247.146.99:8000
PSY Paris One Trance=http://relais01.webradiofactory.com/paris-one_trance.mp3
PSY Psychedelik.Com=http://88.191.38.140:8002
PSY Psyradio FM=http://81.88.37.2:8030
PSY Radio DPS Estonia http://a4.serverid.ee:8000/
PSY Radio Quintessenz=http://85.25.123.97:8000
PSY TechnoBase=http://78.159.104.139:80
PSY Technomusic France=http://213.186.62.28:8006
ROCK 60s - Oldies 103 - http://208.80.52.86:80
ROCK Classic - PhoenixFireRadio=http://s4.viastreaming.net:7580/
ROCK Classic - Virgin Radio=http://85.159.184.44:80
ROCK Classic Rock Radio=http://216.66.84.2:6320/
ROCK Electra Radio=http://stream3.electraradio.com:443
ROCK Hard Pure Rock Radio=http://purerockradio.servemp3.com:8016/
ROCK Radio Paradise =http://scfire-dll0l-1.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1048
ROCK The Lynx Classic Rock=http://http://91.121.6.109:8032
WORLD Afro Caribbean, Radio Soukous, Congo=http://c518s22.vm.fastserv.com:8000/
WORLD Arabic - KarizmatiK (NL)=http://81.169.157.216:6161/
WORLD Bulgaria - BG Radio Sofia=http://91.148.190.43:8000
WORLD Bulgaria Gocmenim=http://88.255.78.66:8000
WORLD Chinese Classical=http://72.9.152.74:8202
WORLD Chinese Community iD920.com=http://sv4.swifthost.net:8160/
WORLD Germany Radio Oberkrain=http://87.118.64.216:8100
WORLD Ghana Waves Radio=http://64.62.253.225:25302
WORLD India - Bombay Beats=http://64.71.145.133:8017
WORLD India Bollywood frequenceIndia.fr=http://87.98.216.140:8128
WORLD Iranian Radio (Classical)=http://213.73.255.244:10700/
WORLD Italy Lolliradio Italia=http://94.76.208.18:8080
WORLD Madagascar Radio Dago=http://www.dagoradiosound.info:8006/
WORLD Middle Eastern - Raqs Sharqi = http://64.202.98.51:8210
WORLD Radio Vazo Gasy (Madagascar)=http://stream.radiovazogasy.com:8001/
WORLD Radioblagon, France Quebec Suisse Belgique Afrique=http://213.251.135.175:8010
WORLD Serbia-Radio 216=http://217.169.222.107:8051/
WORLD Serbia-Radio Panter=http://85.10.192.194:9010

Hey I tried it! Looks easy to use both sides!

Come on all! Fill it up all!

... and another

Soft rock and really nice listening

http://24.3.213.148:8000 

I can start sharing:

Radio Rivendell (naturally ;)

It has several addresses and this one is what I use:

http://94.23.59.113:8003

http://somafm.com/ has some great streams. I tend to listen drone zone. For elves I recommend

Suburbs of goa.

"Desi-influenced Asian world beats" says the description.

http://74.63.47.82:8850/

Note you can get your favourite net radio steram addresses by opening the stream pls file to notepad. 

Oh Maggie. I cried reading this. It's such a beautiful piece. 

Luv ya :D

:) Oak

I sort of get the feeling that OL has started down a different path to that begun by SL. It began with someone who felt that the community was of utmost importance.

I know that at times it's as if Sakai forgot us but it's usually because he's madly trying to implement something that makes life better for us. And he can't be inworld, writing posts AND doing the development we all seem to demand.

1) He always has the community in mind. He's aware that because we pull together, help each other and anyone who looks as if they need help, go out of our way to make newcomers welcome, and create amazing spaces for everyone to enjoy - we the community, are what make the grid and what will give it a future.

2) He's admitted publicly on more than one occasion that it's us putting our money into the project via buying land etc that provides the funds for the development of the project.

The presence of both of these awarenesses in our creator mean the likelihood of them being the foundational to the community and continuing into the future.

The other reason I have to think it will continue is because we the community will be providing the social basis and structure for whatever evolves. If we do it right, we set the tone for what follows.

Right off the top, I would have to say, that OL has been the best Virtual World experience I have had, with  the exception of meeting my darling husband in the land of the hand. I call OL my home, and look forward to moving towards the vision that Sakai has for our community.

While I have not been here very long,  I have met and made many cherished friendships. Never in my life have I met so many special individuals in one place. I would like to publicly thank the many people who have been an incredible support to me over the past 6 months. I have felt the love, and even been filled with joy at those moments that a few have given me a lecture!.. lol

The community of OL has opened thier arms and welcomed me with such grace and sincerity, that I could not think of calling any other Virtual World, my home. If nothing else demonstrates this fact, it is my success in being a creator. My two years in SL, while it brought me my husband, were mostly filled with me seeking out things and activites that you would never catch me engaging in real life. Yes, I got pulled into the undertow, of darker desires, and almost got lost in it. Since my move to OL, I have climbed out of that pit of dispair, and back up where the air is fresh, the sunlight touches my soul. My mind and spirit have been edified with love, learning, and the opportunity from time to time, to give back all of the special gifts that the OL community has given to me.

The greatest joy, I have found here is the ability to create. Before coming to OL, I personally had not created more than a gift box, that Syrenia had given me about building. I found it interesting, but lacked the courage to really give it an honest try. Upon arrival, to OL, I rolled up my sleeves and claimed my half of our 45,000 prims, and decided that if gift boxes were just the start. To my suprise, I have found building to be exillerating. In 6 short months I have gotten to the point of taking on any challange I can think of, albiet, some are very rough builds... lol

The community has been incredibling supportive in my growth as a creator and a person. Never has the sun set on a day, that someone in some way has taught me something new, or has personally taken time to coach me on the finner techniques. The amount of templates, guides, and knowlege that has been shared with me, leaves me in awe, when I stop to think about it. You have set the bar high, and make want to strive to be a better resident !!!

Looking towards the future, I hope we will all pause from time to time and take a personal inventory. Ask ourselves, what have I given to this precious community today? Do I give when given the opportunity? Have I made it possible for yet one more person to feel the very special spirit that we have here in our VW home. I truly believe, that we only truly recieve by giving. Having said that I will tuck my soapbox away, and again thank all those who have made my OL experience what it is.

Like so many others 4 years ago i was created in second life this wonderfull brave new world which offered self expression and community spirit.

Over the years the grid grew , new technonolgy was added to make it more lifelike.

But this new world started to self destruct,but  no longer did the values of old matter,s owe decided to look for new world,we searched manynew worlds , metaverse, newworld,

then we came across openlife, at first it seemed very empty and sterile,but then imeet freyja, amazing elven lady ,who introuduced me to shai ,lion trista,grim,sakai , in fact everyone,it was then that i found the most amazing community just hidden under the clouds of the welcome isalnd.

After much discussion we decided openlife was the place for our group which currently stands at 2.103 members in sl,we will maintain the group in sl still as ol isnt for everyone, but openlife has such amazing community and spirit, we will stay here forever, we just pray that future improvements do not break the spirit which survives here, lets not make this anothersl everyone....

OL now has a Wiki listing of all currently implemented LSL functions.

If you'd like to discuss any issues relating to scripting in OL now we have the ScriptX engine, you're welcome to bring your thoughts here.

Let's all try to get info into the Wiki and make it a valuable OL resource.

One of the things we started here on the forums is a list of favourite music URLs that can be copied and pasted into the Media field of the About Land window. Just click on the ORACL Forum link in the Main Menu and you'll see the thread.

If you want to find them yourself though, you can go to the Shoutcast website, locate the genre you want, listen to the streams until you find one you like - check out the website for the streaming agency etc.

What I do is open the stream in itunes and then select it and Get Info. This provides you with the URL or IP (set of numbers which are the same thing). I usually copy this somewhere I can refer to it later if I need to just in case I want to change the stream at some time, and change it back again.

Again, once you have the URL or IP you can simply copy and paste it to the Media (Audio) field in About Land.